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Error in the text: 1000mW laser with 532nm wavelength which is green light.

1000nm light is infrared.

Cross posted in https://lemmy.ca/post/64612634

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, fuck flock. But really, truly, do not do this.

I don't give a damn about the Flock cameras. Set them on fire or steal them and sell them for scrap for all I care. But a laser powerful enough to quickly fry a camera sensor is going to be an extreme danger to human eyes. These type of lasers can be acquired fairly easily, but you don't want to be using them in public outdoor spaces. At these power levels, even reflections of laser light can be damaging to human eyes. And when you shine laser light on a solar panel or camera lens, some is going to be scattered in random directions. Sure, you can make sure to wear laser safety goggles while doing this. But random bystanders won't have that luxury.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So very much this.
These things should not be available to buy for the general public, or anyone without safety training and equipment.
Remember: Don't stare into laser with remaining eye.

Edit: It is true that there are lasers that can damage camera sensors and not eyes, but they are infrared outside of the visual spectrum, and absorbed by the water content of the human eye. BUT STILL DO NOT USE LASERS OUTSIDE OF CONTROLED ENVIRONMENTS

[–] stray@pawb.social 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Apparently they can also set dark objects on fire and melt plastic, which has a lot of potential for unintended consequences.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Can't tell if you're trying to talk me out of or into buying a laser.

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[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The likelihood that you're going to get caught anyway, this might be a better situation for an "act like you belong" approach.

Hi-vis vest, hard hat, a ladder, couple safety cones, and some tools. Just waltz right up and run a half-inch drill bit through the lens. Pack up and move on to the next one.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Everyone knows that construction workers famously never have their phones with them so complete the look by leaving yours at home.

[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

There's a pretty great video of what happens when you fuck with a police heli

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 138 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I know that Xwitter is usually a reliable source, but 1000nm is outside visual range and therefore not green. Green lasers in the ~500nm range will absolutely damage a camera sensor, but you'll need good aim and sustained illumination.

[–] degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 101 points 4 days ago (9 children)

If you actually want to do this, look at the NUBM44-V2 laser diode. 7 watts of output power and around $30 on eBay. Another $50 or so for a driver, heat sink, and lens and you can burn out cameras in seconds (you can also burn out your eyes so a good set of laser goggles is essential).

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 43 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"My eyes! The Googles do nothing!"

Oops, fixed lol

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Also make sure your friends have laser goggles, and that nobody is anywhere downrange if you're trying this. It takes way longer to blind a camera with these than it does to blind a human/animal, and it will turn minor vandalism charges into felonious assault.

[–] zeejoo@thelemmy.club 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is why I advocate for the anti-surveillance method of "hit camera with big stick"

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

"Heave rock at bad thing" really does cut to the primal core of the species. Thog not believe how much copper is in mammoth.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They ostensibly meant mW rather than "nm wavelength" based on the image, but they might not be the brightest laser in the activist's pocket.

Edit:

Jason Bassler is co-founder of The Free Thought Project and has been featured in such publications as Rolling Stone, Reason, Infowars, RT, MIC and The Tom Woods Show.

Checks out.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 127 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yall make sure you're not visible on another camera when you try this - it's not like they won't be able to figure out when and where you were when you did it. FLOCKs are usually in high camera-density areas like parking lots and strip malls and such, and there's a lot of pressure to address vandalism against the surveillance apparatus.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If you hit an airplane they will try very hard to track you down. If you hit too many cameras they will probably try to find you, too. They will use your purchase history, social media post history, and location, for instance. So, best to buy the laser somewhere far from where you use it, AND pay cash if you can.

Not that I recommend this, but if you want to try, be smart about it. And, be careful.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That's the problem with this really. You gotta be really careful you're not caught on camera beforehand, and they have a lot of cameras. So unless you can just walk out of the woods near one and disappear the same way, you're likely gonna have a bad time.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

A camera is a camera no matter the brand. Take a walk around your neighborhood and imagine the cone of sight each one has, eventually you'll see one that doesn't have another watching. From there it's just a game of mine sweeper.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think its horrible that so many things are happening to us from our own government. They are supposed to be on our side but that was long ago now.

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Purchase history is harder to check than you'd think. Use a giftcard on AliExpress and anyone outside of the federal level will be lost.

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[–] slowmolaggins@thelemmy.club 60 points 4 days ago

In my town, roads have potholes deep enough to cause damage to cars. Many intersections have been down and operating as 4 way stops for months. But somehow there's money in the budget to do this shit. I think some vandalism might be in order to teach priorities.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just smash. Doesn't matter how. Smash smash smash. Or cover with paint or an oily plastic bag. Or just smash. They are always like 8 feet up. Smash.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just smash. Doesn't matter how. Smash smash smash. Or cover with paint or an oily plastic bag. Or just smash.

Basically my dating strategy as well

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[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah. Paintball gun if you want to be fun with it.

Spray can on a stick (there's tools for this at the hardware store, lets you press the button from down the other end of the stick) if you want to do it easily.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 23 points 4 days ago (8 children)

It would be interesting to train an image recognition algorithm on detecting flock cameras, build a raspberry pi with two servos and put it all in a nice box to carry around. For research purposes of course.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Severe damage off a 1 watt green laser isn't assured. It'll do something, but likely not fully incapacitate it. You see guys screwing with strong lasers cooking camera sensors all over Youtube.

Better off with spray paint or tape or just stealing the camera.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

or you can saw of the pole its attached to, like they did elsewhere, or throw objects at it to break it.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Old school shit is usually the best shit.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I mean the whole point of flock is that they can track you everywhere. Destroying their cameras doesn't destroy the footage.

If you destroy their cameras they will just trace your movements backwards until they find a way to identify you.

You need to find a way to do it surreptitiously so it's not clear who is doing it, and they won't be able to figure it out by process of elimination by seeing who is commonly present when a camera iss destroyed.

[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

If this were really true, there would be no crime right now. Nancy Guthrie has been missing for months now despite the perpetrator being caught on camera in an affluent neighborhood where there would be many Ring, Flock etc. cameras. These companies overpromise and underdeliver as they all do. Their main purpose is get people to pay them. They are much less competent than they claim to be.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

The easiest way to best an opponent is to always assume they have the upper hand. If flock cameras are half as good as they say they are then approaching it as if it were twice as good means it will be good enough to match.

Being over prepared will never cost you as much as being under prepared.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Possibly, but I don't wanna risk my freedom on them being incompetent rather than corrupt.

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[–] modus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I want to be able to avoid these. Is this one that I should not use?

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808801522780.html

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Lasers on AliExpress might be 1% or 100.000% of the listed power. It might be super dangerous when you think it's safe, or vice versa.

Never use AliExpress when it comes to things that need to keep you safe, or that go into your body.

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[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

i'm all for guerilla destruction of flock cameras

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