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And destroyed 11000 tanks lol

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And destroyed 11000 tanks lol

They are at the level of boom bah rah that already exceeds the wildest estimates of Russian active, stockpiled and produced in the meantime equipment.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

The Ghost of Kiev strikes again!

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russia was taught Juche Necromancy and is using it to bring soldiers back. One soldier by the name of Stalin Moscowvich has died in battle 76 times. Send us more bullets America!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kremlincast Eternals gets reforged again and again by Putin the Heldenhammer.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Guise, you're missing the point.

This is just Zalinski's Battlefield 3 player card.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

1million casualties would be 2 thirds of the entire active duty Russian military.

I'm not even sure if Russia had 11,000 tanks to lose

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Okay this is obviously bullshit guys. I'm not going to try and defend this. But I do want to know how they get these numbers. It can't just be 100% lies, there has to be some baseline fudging of numbers BEFORE the lying starts. Like they have to be fucking with the count so they have a number in the hundreds of thousands, and then they just lie the rest of the way.
Are they counting each tank shot as a tank destroyed? Are they counting a tank they hit, which then got fixed and shot again twice? Are they counting each Russian that gets any kind of injury as dead?

No, it's just straight up lies, they took that numbers out of their asses in the first months of hyperoptimism to "show" entire world that they are "winning". But of course if they lessened the numbers in the mean time of 3 years of such winning that would pose the question why they had stopped winning? So the numbers now reached the incredible heights of absurd. They did it because the entire western propaganda machine is working for them and its victims (westerners mostly) will never hear any conflicting narration and even if they will there is the usual "Asiatic Horde" plan B right behind it.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It can’t just be 100% lies

What would happen if it was 100% lies?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The thing is that Ukranian numbers also have to be the source of Ukranian decisionmaking. They can't just be making shit up and basing stuff on that, they'd have lost if they literally didn't do any kind of strategic assessment.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. Maybe they already lost a long time ago and what we're seeing now is just a futile waste of lives because the collective west demands it.
  2. Idealists make decisions all of the time based on made up bullshit.
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the Ukranian government genuinely thought they killed a million Russian soldiers and destroyed the entire Russian tank fleet, all their ships etc. they would be acting differently. "The Ukrainians are stupid" and the fact that the west will fight to the last Ukranian isn't the heuristic I'm looking for.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

The German leadership lied to their troops torwards the end of ww1 in order to maintain moral. Then when their loss came as a surprise, they blamed minorities to cope

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Another possibility is that military victory isn't even being attempted and this is actually just a great smokescreen for all kinds of graft.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

They can’t just be making shit up and basing stuff on that

I mean, at least for the publicly available numbers, they literally can. Not to mention, Ukrainian estimates for war casualties would almost certainly be completely wrong because the Ukrainians have been continuously pushed back for over a year now. How would they even measure Russian casualties? Their frontlines are lacking manpower and they are disadvantaged on the electronic warfare front.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

This is exactly how the Axis lost WWII, among other things. They got high on their own supply of propaganda to the point they were making completely irrational decisions. Hitler ordering units that no longer existed to counterattack. Japan thinking the US didn't have the industrial capabilities to fight on two fronts. Whatever the fuck Italy was doing in Ethiopia lmao.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

With personnel, it could be casualties, not just deaths. This makes it somewhat more believable. In military speak, casualty is more than just death, it includes "injury, illness, missing, capture or desertion."

Understanding the Ukrainian, and the specific words and their meaning and connotations could maybe help.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Z is pretty much implying that they're dead dead. I'm going to guess that he's referencing WW1 trench warfare here. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1l6g9ng/ua_pov_zelenskyy_responded_to_trump_saying_putin/

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[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My GUESS is theyre counting all kills as soldiers and that includes civilians in the general area they kill. Tanks could be any large vehicle. Buses, vans, etc.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

That would be a good guess for where to start

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

That's what I'm thinking genuinely.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

The Russians are in defensive positions at this point.. literally no possible way this is true.