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I was on a international flight recently that spanned about 11 hours in the day and the person in front kept putting thier chair back.

Now I know people want to relax but i'm using the screen in the chair and i'm hoping the inflight meal will at least be passable enough to digest.

So on a long haul flight that happens in the day would you put your chair back?

Would you keep trying to put it back every hour (i havent moved chairs). even though you have been asked not to?

  • now by the cabin crew btw
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[–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 41 points 1 month ago (13 children)

most chairs allow the tray to be upright while the seat is reclined. if the seat wasn't meant to be reclined, it wouldn't be able to be reclined. demanding that someone else not perform an action that is permitted to them because you feel that is it is more convenient to you is...well... I'll let you figure that one out

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[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

PSA for anyone using a laptop during flights, the tray tables do not change angle or height when the person in front of you puts their seat all the way back. I almost had someone break my laptop screen a few years ago because the top of my screen got caught under the exposed edges where my tray table would fold up into, as the seat back came angling down towards my tray table. I was quick enough to be able to pull my laptop towards me and remove the screen before the full force was applied to the screen housing.

[–] emmanuel_car@k.fe.derate.me 7 points 1 month ago

Yep same thing happened to me. I don’t know how I managed the quick reflexes after 17hrs London to Perth, but I guess not wanting my laptop to break trumps jet lag.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

During cabin service which usually is the beginning and end of the flight, I’ll have it up. But it’s reclined while I’m watching the screen or sleeping. Person behind me can adjust, much like I adjust.

It’s a part of the plane. We all know the seat pitch is tight. We all know that the recline feature is there. If it bothers you, book the emergency row, fly first class, or don’t fly.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The way I look at it, it's a shared resource. You are just as "entitled" to the space as the person behind you.

If I need the space, I will try and use it. But, I will move back slowly, and stop if I meet any resistance. There is nothing worse than having someone slam their seat back into your laptop (or worse, onto your knees....)

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s a fair approach, and I was recently on a plane with someone who was all legs and over 6’ (Denmark, wow) and I would have negotiated the situation in that case - but I’d argue they should get priority on the bulkheads or emergency row with nobody in front.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But we don’t get priority on seats that fit. We used to but now airlines upcharge everything. Even if you can afford paying extra fees, they go fast: I have rarely seen them available.

FYI - on many planes the bulkhead isn’t even beneficial for tall people. The thing is it’s a flat wall. Even though there’s more room overall, there may be no place for feet/legs. Normal seats are much closer together, but there can be more room for your feet under the seat in front

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (13 children)

If it bothers you [pay about five times as much].

That's a very grounded and reasonable take.

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 month ago

Flights are for sleeping, friend. I personally don't see any benefit from reclining my seat so I don't, but you should understand: reclined IS the default.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I put the seat back every single time I am on a flight. I have back issues and I get back pain if I sit upright like that for too long. If the flight attendants are asking to not put a seat back because the person behind me, then I’m going to ask for a new seat because sitting upright for 11 hours is absolute agony.

Sorry to the tall folks and whatnot, but I’m not flying somewhere just to be stuck in bed for 2 days unable to move because of back pain.

[–] emmanuel_car@k.fe.derate.me 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m a tall person and, when I can’t get extra leg room, I don’t have an issue with the person in front of me reclining their seat. I do the same if the flight is longer than maybe 2 or 3 hours for the same reason, it’s more comfortable and I can stretch my body in different ways so I’m actually able to walk off the plane.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I mean I do feel kind of bad because I’ve flown long enough to see how much smaller the space has gotten. But physical pain overrides any guilt I feel and I will recline the seat.

[–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the cabin crew tells you not to put your seat back, then don't put your seat back

You don't want to be kicked out mid-flight

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The crew didn't ask him not to, OP asked him not to

[–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm actually guilty of skipping to the end of the post, but it looks like maybe you didn't make it that far.

The point still stands though: if one does not want to be ejected from the plane, one ought to listen to the directions of the cabin crew.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

I assume his "now" is a typo for "not". But obviously that's just an assumption

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm 6'4" (193cm). The seat in front of me reclining means my knees are pressed into the seat back, and that's uncomfortable for both of us. I don't want to do that to anyone else so I never put my seat back.

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I never put my seat back. I think they should take that feature out of airplane seats entirely.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Agreed, each person should have their own space that no other passenger can alter. If you want to recline it should be within your own space. For example the seat butt should slide forward, or you should get an angled pillow to put behind your back. Or alternatively all seats should be reclined 100% of the time and you should get an up-slanted pillow for your back so you can sit upright.

However it's done, everyone should have the exact same amount of space that no one else can alter

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

i dont mind it for night flights - the entire plane goes back so you dont notice the difference

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 7 points 1 month ago

More and more airlines actually are, especially on shorter flights. And the price still is going up!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

The problem is not the reclining seats, it's that we are now packed like cattle.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (15 children)

If I want to recline I'm reclining. My comfort shouldn't be impeded because it might inconvenience the person in back of me.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With the same attitude the person behind you can rightfully kick off and demand you sit back up, because why should THEIR comfort be impeded by your inconvenience of not being able to lay back?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The space that my seat back occupies is not their space, that is mine.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Complaining about someone using a seat as designed feels entitled to me. Sorry. I've always so confused how some people consider it encroaching. Sure it's all shared space, but that means you are sharing it with others. Reclining inherently uses that chairs fair space.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

There is no etiquette. That's a flawed argument.

The seats are designed the way they are by the airlines. They allow the minimum amount of space for the maximum amount of money.

The airlines could make all seats non-reclining with very little effort. But they would lose money because non-reclining seats would be a dealbreaker to a small but not insignificant number of customers...me for one.

The airlines could also make seats more comfortable and reclinable by allowing more space for each seat. But they would lose money because they would sell less seats.

The seats recline the small amount they do because of the natural equilibrium that the market allows between comfort and profit. End of story.

You peasants arguing about which other peasant is a terrible person are blaming the wrong people.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Doesn't bother me if they recline - on an Airbus the seat base pivots so you get more knee room.

Related things that do annoy me - people dropping the seat back with a lot of force (why not recline gently so the person behind can adjust their stuff?), and people kicking the back of my seat.

A 12 hour flight is often going to involve a change in timezone, so I usually get some sleep, and for that I want my seat reclined ... plus keeping in one position for that amount of time is uncomfortable for my joints and backside.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I've never even tried to learn how to put the seats back, because it just seems rude to me. I wouldn't want the person in front of me doing that, so I don't do it to anyone else.

[–] Bromeliadventures@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

They paid for a seat, they can use it as they wish within its designed and permitted capabilities. You don't know what time zone they've come from or where they're going, when they sleep is their business. You don't know what back/ physical issues they may have. If you don't want to sit behind a reclining seat that upsets your delicate sensibilities don't buy a ticket that sits you behind a reclining seat that upsets your delicate sensibilities. Who the hell do you think you are to dictate what others should do because you don't like your own life choices.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 7 points 1 month ago

I don't. I just feel bad for the person behind me :(

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nope.

We live in a society, and as far as I'm concerned, stealing the person behind you's very limited leg room is selfish.

Signed,

A tall person who WILL kick your seat when my knees are in agony.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I’m 6’3” or 1.9m tall. I fly monthly for work. Putting the seat back has little effect on leg room because the pivot point is just below your knee level. It steals a bit of room going straight forward from your head/shoulders but you can reclaim this lost 2” by also reclining your seat.

If you’re kicking seats rather than reclining your own to get back to the same exact space as non-reclined just at a slightly more comfortable angle, you’re the asshole.

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[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their seat back has no impact on your leg room

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

I always keep mine back, except during meals and when it's not allowed. It's better for my back this way.

Some basic etiquette: Recline carefully - there are people with stuff behind you.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[–] Janx@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What are you, insane? It's their seat, doesn't affect your tray table at all, and reclines, at most 15°. Grow up...

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I never put my seat back and consider it rude when other people do it. There was even one instance in which I made a stink I demanded the person in front of me put their seat back up (thankfully, they complied).

As others have pointed out, this is a situation created by the airlines and their shitty business models.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

I don't usually, but I get the window seat to give me sometime to lie against.

The rule is that, unless you're in a first class seat that can impact the person behind you, you can recline.

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