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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 41 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Ever run an AI model locally? If you want the most capability you need a fast GPU with 32-48gb RAM. And that's all for you, ONE user.

Copilot has millions of users, with tens or hundreds of thousands of them hitting the AI all at once. Each one needs $thousands worth of GPU and RAM dedicated to them for the length of their query processing.

Where do you think the money to buy all that hardware comes from? You see OpenAI buying a double digit percentage of the world's RAM production, you think they got it on clearance sale?

No, there are investors. Investors who are pouring hundreds of billions into this AI stuff. And they don't do this because it's fun, they do it because they expect a BIG return.

So what's going on is just like your neighborhood drug pusher, only the drug pusher is more honest. He says 'first hit's free, man'. AI company says 'AI models are an easy and cost effective way to modernize your workflow!'; they don't tell you that once you've integrated them and fired all the humans who know how to do the work, the price is gonna go way up.

Because the fact is, there IS a real cost of AI compute. GPU time, or at the large scale, datacenter space, power, cooling, etc.

In another few months to few years, the C-suites will stop huffing the koolaid and will start doing cost-benefit analysis on where AI is and isn't cost-effective vs. humans. With any luck (for the AI people) by that time the AIs will be good enough that it's a clear benefit. If not this bubble's gonna pop.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Has anyone ever actually had a drug dealer giving out free hits?

I feel like that's the biggest lie DARE ever told.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

DARE told so many lies. I was told that if I smoked weed, it would ruin my life and I would become a helpless drug addict. Then I smoked weed and that didn't happen. Then they got me thinking "what else did they lie to me about?".

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When I was a teen, I was offered drugs for free more than once, so it's not all a lie. Maybe it is just uncommon in many places.

I'm Brazilian, BTW.

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[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, what you’re saying…is the AI Bubble is going to pop once the pencil pushers do the math? But they’re asking their local LLM for that… so it isn’t happening?

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[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That's why I would rather run locally. I control my data. Better for the environment. And if I ask a programming question, sure ChatGPT will come back in seconds, but I'm fine with waiting 30-60 seconds for my own AI. How impatient are we.

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[–] ryantown@lemmy.world 189 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, what's the surprise here? Turns out it's expensive.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 82 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Microsoft was deceptive here and never made it clear exactly what sort of deal you were getting with the flat rate. There was no indication of the actual magnitude.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Yeah especially because they now have some convoluted method involving different counts of processing, cache etc. But the developer has no easy way of seeing those statistics and thus has no feel for them. And developers already have little control over how much tokens a task takes. Which was fine with the flat rate, just use the service. But now that those things actually matter, the stats should be way easier to see?

So in typical Microsoft fashion not only did they raise prices they somehow made it even more shit. Like the AI already sucked, but does the service itself need to suck as well?

Not being able to control costs and very vague productivity improvement claims makes the ROI impossible to calculate. So even if the AI wasn't shit, it would still be hard to figure out if it's even helping at all.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 124 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It wasn't profitable. This bait and switch was a long time coming.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yup, the “first one is free” deal is always a trap.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Literal drug dealer strategy

[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

In just glad it happened relatively soon. Should have happened sooner :-)

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[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 104 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Sigh. None of this is surprising in the least. The cost of AI infrastructure and compute (coupled with the complexity of the chain) makes it prohibitively expensive.

It only has appeared cheap because of investor money flowing like Niagara on the off-chance that it could be made cheap enough to be profitable after getting everyone addicted to using it. I really don't think it's there, and it's definitely not cheap enough to continue flying for free much longer.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There will be some major bag holders soon. Who's is gonna be? The funnelers or the funnelees? How does MS bounce back having integrated copilot into everything?

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 53 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Given the recent NASDAQ changes, looks like US pension funds will end up with the bag. What a scam.

Microslop can suck it.

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So a massive wealth transfer - right after Covid, ANOTHER unprecedented wealth transfer.

Side question: when are you people in the imperial core going to do something about this with all that God given Liberty™ and Freedom® you continually bomb and destabilize the rest of us for?

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[–] teft@piefed.social 117 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Man, enshittification is happening so fast for ai. Imagine the next big thing. It'll be enshittified prior to release.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 69 points 6 days ago (16 children)

This isn't enshittification in the traditional sense, they haven't captured the market enough for that. They're just panicking because they're burning cash way too fast.

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[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They forgot the first step where you make a great product that everyone's clamoring to use.

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[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Meta kind of did that with their VR stuff. They skipped the appealing to users part and build a bland, brand-safe, microtransaction-laden experience to sell to businesses assuming they could just use their size to force users to buy it.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

As a mod for the Enshitification you hate to see Enshitification in any form.

As a mod of Fuck_AI, I'll make an exception in this one case.

COMMENCE THE ENSHITIFICATION!!!!

Which completely goes against my Enshitification mod mindset, but here we are.

So....nobody told me life was going to be this way.....

clap-clap-clap-clap

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 18 points 6 days ago

„Enshittified“ implies it was ever not shit.

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Everyone could've seen it coming from mile away

[–] nbsp@programming.dev 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

anyone who didnt is a fucking idiot

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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

what? free trial over? 📯 ai spam free-for--all has sucked so far

[–] spaceracoon@lemmy.zip 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The squeeze could not happen soon enough 😌

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

For real. This whole “AI/LLM” nonsense could’ve been a nothing burger if they correctly charged it at the get go… Ah, well. Venture capital is suckers, I guess?

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 81 points 6 days ago (3 children)

~~GitHub~~ Microsoft just switched Copilot to metered billing, and developers are watching months of credits vanish in a single day

[–] dan@upvote.au 40 points 6 days ago

They switched from heavily subsidizing it, to subsidizing it less. That's going to happen with the other providers, too.

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[–] replicat@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I've been using it for well over a year now.

Hit my limit in 1 day and canceled.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 48 points 6 days ago

I have pro+ and I filed an FTC complaint when the billing change was announced and encouraged others to do the same, with the hope that it may lead to a class action settlement in the future.

Good luck, buddy!

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

*plays the world's tiniest violin*

[–] dan@upvote.au 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised. The new pricing is closer to what it actually costs to provide the service.

They can't keep subsidizing AI forever. The same thing is going to happen to other providers too.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not me. As soon as my boss said, "Use the tool thoughtfully," I pretty much don't use it at all anymore.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago

The most thoughtful way to use it.

[–] Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

I think this is "stupid money', again.

I hope this makes companies stop being "AI native"

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] M33@piefed.world 36 points 6 days ago

Watching github news from my codeberg safe place 😎🍿🍺

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 36 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Just trying to squeeze it out before the pop.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (12 children)

I guess they are starting to feel the strain of hemorrhaging billions of dollars for data centers.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Weird, I'm not having this problem.

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