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    reupload because i mixed up sigterm and sigkill like a dumb fuck

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    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Xkill is my favorite. I prefer aiming the gun and pulling the trigger myself

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago

    Set a keyboard shortcut for it. Ctrl + Alt + Esc is mine.

    [–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    This but deleting a folder:

    • Are you sure you want to delete this
    • Delete too large to fit in garbage bin, so are you really sure
    • Couldn't delete stuff (for no clear reason)
    • Even as admin file locks were hard blocking without any easy way to unblock

    Meanwhile on Linux with sudo rm -rf, it's just gone as demanded.

    [–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Partially true. The difference is that in Linux, when you delete a file, you're just removing the directory entry (potentially just one of many entries that point to the same data). The filesystem doesn't actually remove the data and reclaim space until all open handles are closed and no remaining directory entries point to the data.

    Any running processes that have the file open are able to continue to read and write that data via the handle despite the directory entry being removed, until the handle is closed.

    [–] oce@jlai.lu 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I think a file delete just removing an adress and not the actual data is common to all OSes. That's why to safely erase data from a disk it is recommended to fully overwrite the disk with random data, potentially multiple times.

    [–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

    If you delete a still opened file on Linux then the file will disappear for all processes which didn't already open it, all programs that did already open it can still read and write to it and the file on disk will never be overwritten (as in, used for other files) as long as there's still a process with the file open.

    Simplifying how it works: The file you see is a link to the actual file(inode), when a program opens a file using this link they get a copy of the link. As long as one link/copy of it still exist the file won't be deleted. When a program closes all its links get cleaned up so on shutdown all files which only have processes referring to them get marked as deleted.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

    that's a different thing. if you delete a file that is still opened by a process, the space will not get freed up until that process also closed the file. until that point the filesystem still keeps track of the file, it is just not present in any directories anymore.

    I mean you could probably delete files with powershell then idk.

    [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

    Gonna make Lemmy pissed off, but installed on my machine Nobara, Cachy and Mint at some point. All of them had comparable if not worse boot and shutdown times to Windows 10. xD ( And worse performance in games but that's due to having old Nvidia GPU xD )

    It's not a request, it's a warning. The machine will be without power soon, and it's up to the machine whether it wants to prepare for that or not

    [–] nroth@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    I find my system usually has to wait 90 seconds to kill KDE plasma when I use it without a login manager and then try to shut down...

    [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

    <_< shutdown -f -t 0 -s

    [–] mvirts@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

    echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

    Uninterruptible sleep entered the chat

    [–] Object@sh.itjust.works 124 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    A stop job is running for User Manager for UID 1000 (12s / 2 mins)

    [–] lambisio@feddit.cl 1 points 1 hour ago

    Ah, a systemd user I see!

    sysvinit and OpenRC are just so much better.

    [–] four@lemmy.zip 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    ( 1min 59s / 2 mins )

    ...

    ( 2 mins / 3 mins )

    ???

    [–] ignotum@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    (5min 7s / no limit)

    Shieeet

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    [–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    also yes i know shutdown typically uses sigterm and waits nicely, but it doesn't take 45 seconds for no damn reason like windows

    also sigkill is funnier

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    [–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (9 children)
    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Everybody gangsta until "A stop job is running for ..."

    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

    Systemdead can be a dick.

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    [–] first_ad4972@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Definitely not a systemd based distro in the meme

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    [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Reverse meme when it's time to install the updates.

    Windows in that case is "I MUST REBOOT IMMEDIATELY PREPARE TO LOSE ALL UNSAVED DATA IN 3. 2. 1..."

    [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    When I switched to win 10, I actually gave them more money to get the pro version for access to the group policy editor so I could control updates and never have to deal with my PC telling me it's time to restart on its own. Because I was stupid.

    When it came time to switch to Win 11, I did the much more sensible thing and installed Fedora instead. I started with cinnamon and even though I ended up disliking it also, it was still way better than the windows experience.

    [–] solxix@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago

    You should've never given them any money at all. Activation scripts ftw.

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    [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    "YOU CAN'T SHUT DOWN YET, STEAM STILL RUNNING" -Win10, literally every time.

    The fuck?

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