Mastodon post with no text and an image showing a Monobank card strapped to the back of a Pinephone with some rubber bands. The text within the image reads "Contactless payments on PinePhone (working Google Pay/Apple Pay alternative)".

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[–] 461 points 3 months ago* (40 children)

I'll do one better:

Reshaped payment card's NFC antenna

My payment card was just a bit too wide to fit in my cellphone's cover. The phone's own NFC antenna is at the top - and I use it all the time - so the card had to be at the bottom of the cover to avoid triggering the phone all the time, in portrait orientation so-to-speak.

So I dissolved the card in acetone to extract the NFC chip and its antenna, then carefully reshaped one end of the antenna so it's a bit less wide (and since I couldn't modify the length of the wire or the number of turns in any way to avoid de-tuning the antenna too much, I sort of accordioned one side of the rectangle to accommodate the extra length of wire).

Then I set the new shape of the antenna permanently by carefully applying a piece of packing tape over it, flipped it over, taped over the other side to seal everything, then carefully cut around the new, ultra-thin, stubbier contactless payment "card".

Now it fits really smartly in my cellphone cover!

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I dissolved the card in acetone to extract the NFC chip and its antenna,

    Wouldn't the acetone also dissolve the insulation around the antenna wire? So when it touches itself, it shorts itself out, and -- electrically speaking -- you only have one turn of thicker wire?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago*

    Well if it dissolved any insulation, it will not work, as the coil isnt even coiling. It is not a one big coil buy just two ends shorted(or as in the picture, a very small coil. Since this works i can only conclude coating does not dissolve in acetone

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    Have you ever run into difficulty with needing to authenticate with chip+PIN? Like while traveling?

    That would be my big concern with this; it would make it very difficult to pass a PIN check, to say the least!

    Super cool idea. I might just try it myself and see if I run into issues.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What I modified was in fact a contactless payment token. It had the form factor of a payment card, but it only does NFC.

    I have another card for chip+pin.But I almost never use it where I live, because all limits were lifted on contactless payments a few years ago. If I try to pay something really expensive contactless, it will ask me for the pin - which is specific to the payment token.

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  • [–] 69 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Screen side with call buttons

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    [–] 60 points 3 months ago*

    Take that Android! This works even with the phone powered off! It works even without the phone at all!

    Wait...

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  • [–] 57 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Or you can just keep your card in your wallet, like you have done for decades

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  • [–] 38 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    Ironic it's a monobank card, it's mobile only and you have to use a locked unrooted googled phone (or an iPhone) because big brother said so.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Also this https://telegraf.ua/ukr/ukrayina/5935111-gorokhovskogo-chekae-pokarannya-yuristi-rozpovili-chim-dlya-monobank-zakinchitsya-skandal-z-oprilyudnennyam-foto-klientki

    TLDR: some woman did a facial recognition log in method, the bank said that the photos are not stored and deleted instantly, but because there was a Slovenian flag (looked like russian in the photo)in the background, she got her bank account blocked and the CEO posted the verification image online

    Edit: wrong link

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    [–] 30 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Now how about contactless payments without visa or MasterCard.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Non American credit cards when

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    [–] 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    We can go even further and create some sort of physical tokens that we can give to each other. These token would be secure, completely private, waterproof and even work offline. Maybe we could even put some pictures on them and make them vision-impaired accessible - the possibilities are endless!

    People forget that cash is a technology - a pretty good one too.

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    [–] 24 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Maybe a solution similar to this could work: https://github.com/nfcgate/nfcgate/blob/v2/doc/mode/Relay.md

    Have the card at home sitting on a reader connected to your homelab, add NFC module to PinePhone and simply relay the traffic over network.

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    [–] 22 points 3 months ago

    Nice meme, but for us out there with at least a fully virtual card (some companies provide such benefits), we need a real MyAss-Pay alternative

    I recently found Walt, but it's a work in progress for now. The app is avalaible though

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Works without connection tooπŸ”₯

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  • Some banks issue stickers for phones without NFC. It's another physical card but contactless only and very thin (probably with an aluminum strip antenna).

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