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I switched from Gmail to Proton, but now with everything coming out about Proton I'm switching from them too. I started using Posteo which I like but a lot of my accounts having to do with money and finance (including my bank) aren't accepting the Posteo email. They have rejected it over and over and even locked me out stating that I was hacked.

Do you guys have any recommendations for email providers to use that also won't send red flags to my more official accounts?

If it helps, I'm US-based.

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Consider getting your own domain name and pointing it at a provider, then when they enshittify you just switch provider and don't have to change all your emails everywhere again.

[–] nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Huh I never thought about this. This is something I'll have to do some research on, thanks.

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Go for it. It's surprisingly easy, relatively inexpensive and gives you way more control.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well proven strategy, to the point where most providers explicitly allow it (might even be a decider). But don't trust me (genuinely), Moar research! (please)).

[–] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is how I use Proton. The setup process is really easy with clear instructions on what to configure in your DNS provider.
The only problem I have is that gmail rejects emails from my domain, I have to use proton’s address.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, that sucks. Guess you must hate the people who reject you. What domain? yy?

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[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You need to build up reputation before you can beat spam filters. This happens all the time to new domains. Make sure to have Dmarc and Dkim configured.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

BRILLIANT

Well... it has advantages, for sure. Also drawbacks. A custom domain, that ties together all your separate email addresses.

There are let's say 16 addresses on mysuperbestnumberonemail dot com. One used at a bank, one on a shopping site, 4 on a social media site, and one each at some utilities. Those are the ONLY uses of that domain for email in the whole world.

Where if it's a domain millions of others use, then addresses are harder to pinpoint down to one person.

That might matter to someone. Or it might not. Depends on what you care about. Just something to be aware of. A custom domain is a huge fingerprinting signal.

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[–] veguraineum@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tuta is awesome. You can try their free tier for an unlimited time, so no need to rush it.

[–] nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ive been really considering Tuta as my next choice. Do you find it difficult or easy to use for your accounts like bills/finance/important?

[–] silmarine@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

I used tuta for a long time ans never had any issues. I recently switched only because I wanted to be able to send emails from my self hosted services ans they don't support anything but they're own clients. If that's not a problem for you the tuta is a great option.

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[–] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I must be out of the loop. What’s the issue with Proton?

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Same. No idea what OP is talking about and I'm usually up to speed on stuff. Nobody has answered either so it's probably an old article from a couple months ago about that cia inquiry or whatever (can't recall). Idk what else. They always have a bad rep here, but it's better than pretty much everything else, minus maybe a few one-offs.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is absolutely no evidence for it. He went to lobby in DC, and apparently, some GOP folks had time for him but Dems didn't. Could have been the opposite on different day based on several factors.

Then recently, the marketing firm they hired put a sponsorship on a far right guy's video. They accepted full accountability for the mistake and said they would change procedures to get those being sponsored vetted appropriately.

Neither one of these are evidence of being MAGA. You can personally lobby in DC and find an individual of an opposite party who might have interest in your message. Just because Grainger played a commercial during satanic music videos doesn't mean they are Dimmu Borgir fans. It just means people who listen to metal need tools too.

They guy might be a fascist dick for all I know. I'm just saying that the situations above do not indicate that it is the case. In fact, fascists typically never admit fault or accept accountability for anything. The only concern for me is that he was lobbying in the US at all, but that is the only way you can get your case heard sometimes if you need politicians to hear a different side of an argument.

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[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think they sponsored a right-wing French Youtuber, but they publicly apologised and said they didn't know his political alignment.

[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that the whole thing? Genuinely asking.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Seems...pretty thin tbh. I'm not ready to throw baby out with bathwater just yet.

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[–] potate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd love input on this too. I went all in on Proton and it's aging like milk.

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago

it's aging like milk.

Becoming cheese?

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is coming out of proton? Honest question.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Proton's a good alternative.
There's some confused allegations of them being MAGA Facists. But it's a combination of misunderstanding and misrepresentation.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There’s some confused allegations of them being MAGA Facists. But it’s a combination of misunderstanding and misrepresentation.

funny how they're the only ones in this space that keeps making this mistake

[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is it funny?
By a sizeable margin they're the largest and most popular in the space. At the same time, that makes them the biggest target and most watched.

Someone even mentioned a possible smear campaign by Google. While there's no evidence at all of that, they would be the most obvious target.

So it's not really funny or odd in any way. It's kind of obvious really.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yea I'm happy at Migadu as well, it's been 2 years since the switch, not a single hiccup.

[–] nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Interesting, never heard of that before, I'll check it out

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Serious starting to wonder if all this vague, anti-Proton misinformation-posting isn’t just some Google-backed astroturfing campaign

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[–] helix@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Maybe banks flag it because Posteo is a German company and they don't see it as international? Did you raise a ticket with either your bank or Posteo as you're paying for both their services?

[–] nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thats what I was thinking too. I was considering opening a ticket with my bank but trying to do that with sites like Paypal and my phone company are extra hassles since their customer services feel non-existant.

[–] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

Been using fastmail for ~8 years now. No complaints

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm also in the US and using Posteo. I've never had any issues (that I recall) with the address being rejected. Have you tried using a Posteo-provided alias with a different domain?

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

There's also Thundermail, if they ever get around to actually opening it up . . .

[–] whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Just stick with proton. Email isn’t secure and it doesn’t matter what the company does.

[–] etamot@jlai.lu 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm in the same situation, and I'm now seriously considering going all full Infomaniak which has a very good reputation for hosting and privacy. They have a whole suite like Google and even better than Proton's. Mail, drive, office.... Free for up to 15GB then pretty cheap for more. They are in Switzerland and I believe the law there is protective, making the whole service pretty trustworthy imo.

[–] dieTasse@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Please note that they may do a kyc on you at any point. I tried using infomaniak for getting a domain and they asked for kyc, I had to upload my id. Needles to say I cancelled. I have never been asked anywhere else for my id when buying a domain. I asked them why and they said they do it occasionally 🤷

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Proton, Tuta, Murena....

[–] liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've been using purelymail with my own domains. It's cheap and it works. Depending on the receiving service, sent items do sometimes end up in spam.

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