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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 18 points 3 hours ago

LOL at taking 7 words to say "blackmail"

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 82 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

The subtext is that the Epstein ring was a compromat factory.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Huh. Would you look at that.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

The more I read about this Epstein guy the more I think he was a jolly bad egg.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 82 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

People are shitting on Gates and that's appropriate and all, but the subtext here is really important. Epstein and his circle went after powerful people through blackmail and the influence extends really far. And there's a person sitting at the head of the White House who's name appears a fuckton of times in the Epstein files. The whole thing needs to be blown wide open and there's obviously a lot of people in powerful positions who don't want that to happen because things about them will get out.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

We already know the subtext though. That's the thing the entire pizza gate saga was essentially a fake version of what's been happening since at least the 1960s with Israeli intelligence.

Epstein, like his many bosses and colleagues still operating, helped traffic children, matched powerful people with children (sometimes adults), all to ensure their absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.

If you're not with them, you're against them, so they'll either make sure you stay with them, or they'll just kill you (JFK).

[–] Burray_Mookchin@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And who is "they" in your opinion? Don't be so secretive.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 5 points 1 hour ago

absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.

I did address that. Or, in other words, the capital class which acts as a single distinct entity in most things, and uses tactics like this to ensure a lack of in-fighting.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's if you believe Gates is telling the truth and not simply covering his ass.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 52 minutes ago

Hard to lie and tell the truth at the same time.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

Well . . yeah

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So we now have clear evidence this is what everybody with a brain thought it was. All that's left is to apply that reasoning to the dog that hasn't barked.

[–] BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 hours ago

Oh the "king of blackmail" blackmails people? That's crazy.

[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Gate claimed "visiting" Epstein was a big mistake. If he only visited, then he couldn't be blackmailed. Blackmail means he was shagging underage girls and there's evidence in the Epstein files.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Elstein was a paedophile and he enabled paedophiles, but that’s not all he was. What he was was a fixer. He wasn’t a “I can get you a 12 year-old by noon”, he was a “I can get you whatever you want (including 12 year-olds) by noon”

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. If what Gates wanted was a couple of 30 year old women who were dtf and a couple lines of coke with some mdma over a nice ocean view then Epstien could have that tomorrow and be asking yacht or island. But it comes with both all the privacy he could use to threaten with and an expectation that he can call in favors and connections too. And suddenly in exchange for being set up a man who pimps children has dirt on you, connections to you, and you owe him a bit.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 hours ago

Maybe I misread the article, but it seems they assisted gates with getting in touch with women to have an affair with. It has been said before he had affairs with Russian prostitutes so I imagine that's what this is vs with children. Even Epstein would prefer to blackmail him with being a pedo, I bet he was happy enough to get such a powerful person blackmailed with anything.

Another reason I believe it wasn't pedophilia that gates was involved in is because he'd be lying to Congress about this, a felony. If they have evidence of gates lying, he'd still be known as a pedo, and ending up a criminal as well.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 141 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Oh, another Epstein "victim".

Fuck you, Bill. Epstein never forced a billionaire into anything, they all walked into the trap willingly.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not saying Gates was a "victim", but it seems silly to ignore the role blackmail played in Epstein's operations.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You're absolutely right, but I think some of us are worried about losing sight of how he managed to rule via blackmail: he blackmailed incredibly shitty people who did incredibly shitty things. Epstein was a monster of a human whose own proclivities will haunt most of our nightmares for the rest of our lives, but we shouldn't forget that he didn't coerce the people he blackmailed. Sure, he enabled and catered to them, but these people already had their own horrifying habits that they thought (probably correctly) they were rich or powerful enough to practice with impunity.

I know you already said that you're not calling Gates a victim. But also, focusing too hard on a (made up) quote like "Epstein blackmailed me into 90% of the crimes I committed," runs the risk of a large portion of the population forgetting that 10% of those crimes were catered by requesting using resources from other people Epstein blackmailed because they also wanted to do some shit that was so fucked up that only someone like Epstein could make it happen quickly, quietly, and conveniently.

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Multiple things can be true at once. He was a victim of blackmail because he was guilty of whatever the fuck was going on at pedo island.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people were pressured into participating at pedo Island because of existing blackmail, which generated more powerful blackmail. Using blackmail leverage to create more blackmail leverage is like blackmail 101.

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 hours ago

Correct - but he should still be held accountable for things like fucking children even if he did so under the threat of some other embarrassing info going public.

Blackmail only works when the one being blackmailed digs their own grave with a pattern of failing to do what they should do every step of the way.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

I would be prepared to see a lot more of this over the next few months, they know they can’t not release shit forever so they’re letting the biggest players get their ducks in a row first.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 46 points 8 hours ago

Plea for sympathy: Denied.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 88 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just to be clear this is not Trump testifing under oath. Not Epstein. Not Maxwell.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep only people who don't fall in line with the current regime. Fuck Gates and I'm glad to see any of these monster prosecuted but there are bigger fish they should've started with.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Gates is a piece of shit and I’m glad the ghoul is getting put to the coals but a lot of republicans see him as one of the biggest villains in the context of Epstein, this is to placate them and nothing more, I honestly hope he’s still got the guile he used in the 90s and sells everyone else out once he knows he’s fucked.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 90 points 9 hours ago

Yes we know, and their ages?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No testimony from Shill Gates is enough to make me respect him or Microslop ever again. May he forever have to cover his drinks at social gatherings if he isn't shunned from society after all is said and done.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ever again? You respected him or Microsoft at some point? Why?

Little shit learned to code by reading other peoples code out of the trash then immediately tried to cut off sharing code. Fuck that guy.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Good to know. I only respected him cause I had no idea he was a pedophile, or a shit cheater of a coder, and because his foundation provided college scholarships.

[–] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I respected his wife. Melinda. Not perfect, but she effectively strong armed him into pouring billions into the Gates foundation.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Makes sense. She definitely wears the pants in the relationship.

Can't believe Bill the Shill tried to drug her drink with an HIV-prevention pill because he likely caught HIV from having sex with those children and didn't bother telling her.