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    [–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    In KDE, when right-click menu gives you an option for a new "folder". I will call it a folder.

    [–] Jack@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    The Xfce file manager, Thunar (4.18 with en-US as language), also has "Create Folder..." under the File menu, and in some contexts in the right-click menu.

    Under Preferences, Behavior, it has both "directory" and "folders".

    man ls uses "directory" only tho, and of course mkdir.

    [–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Thunar also calls them folders in the properties window.

    And most Linux icon themes visually represent them with a file cabinet folder image...

    [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    linux users when they walk into a room:

    ls

    windows users when they walk into a room

    DIR

    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago

    cd

    ls

    ls

    What was I doing again?

    ls

    lsd

    You start tripping out

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    I guess most Windows users don't know what DIR is or even where to use it.

    "Do you use DIR?"
    User: "Do I use what? And don't call me dear."

    Opening a folder in Explorer automatically shows the contents, saving the need for an extra step.

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)


    Here is a container of DIR.
    Which is called a pen! Hmmm.

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    [–] meathorse@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I feel this deep. Coming around full circle over the past 30-odd years.

    Cutting my teeth mucking around and learning DOS 5 with friends on my families first PC, they were directories. Migrating to a support career where everything is stored in folders and now coming out the other side abandoning windows altogether and I'm back to calling everything directories again!

    [–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yep and don't get me started on object storage where everything is a prefix

    [–] poinck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Speak for yourself; for me everything is a path now ^^

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    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Most file managers on Linux, like GNOME or KDE, have the option "New Folder". It's fine to use them interchangeably, y'all.

    [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    imo, directory refers to the filesystem concept, folder refers to the UI concept

    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah, but if the UI refers to the same file system's directories also as folders, why do people get so bent out of shape when you call them either?

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Everyone's gotta have a hobby.

    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I honestly like folders better. It's one of the few good things from windows.

    Files are in folders. That makes so much sense.

    [–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Not any more. I had a student not that long ago ask about the metaphor, ended up having to explain to the whole class what physical files and folders were.

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    [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    When you call it the windows key

    [–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

    I bought tux stickers to stick them onto the windows icon of my keyboard. However it is a lighted one. So you had tux on top and in a red light the windows icon shined through. It was even more cursed that way.

    [–] embed_me@programming.dev 7 points 3 weeks ago

    What? You expect me to use "Super" out there in the wild and not look crazy?

    [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Microsoft is the one that forced manufacturers to add it, or they couldn't advertise their keyboard as being "Designed for Windows 95", as it is required for the shortcuts (e.g win + d shows the desktop). The "Menu" key was added at the same time so that the Win 95 UI could be navigated without a mouse.

    Now they are going the same with the CoPilot key. And poorly - Windows keys send keycode 0x5B and 0x5C. Menu sends 0x5D.
    The CoPilot key? Left Shift + Windows + F23, obviously.

    [–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    There's another name for the windows key?

    [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Super or Meta is and Mac calls it command key

    [–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    meta is the alt key (option on Macs)

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I fairly sure I've seen various *nix tools call it super, meta, and hyper. I think super is the most correct but I've seen all three

    [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Super and Meta refer to two different keys from olden times that no longer appear on mainstream keyboards. So they are emulated using a convenient proxy.

    It’s most common on Gnome to use the Windows key for Super, while Meta is set by user preference, often to Left Alt.

    Super and Meta have different functions and are not interchangeable, though two given users may map the windows key to one or other.

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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I use either term. "Directory" is a weird term honestly. I accept it and use it often, but folder finds does make more sense honestly.

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Yes, a directory is a list of items. Like a telephone directory. A folder is a container of items.

    In 2009 I added Folder to the Wikipedia page Directory (computing) Explaining the Folder Metaphor in both English and German (Verzeichnis/Ordner). My clarification has been tweaked and altered slightly to bring it into line with Wikipedia standards, but it has stood the test of time.

    I always use the term folder in Linux circles when referring to a container of things. It's useful to stress the importance of the user interface, which is often misunderstood by many there. Be proud!

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Firstly, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. And yeah those are the two ways I've thought of those terms. What's weird to me is that saying "directory" to refer to the containing object does sound like you're referring to just the listing itself, as you said, which is ever-changing metadata and to my knowledge that is not stored in/on the folder itself, it would be in the ...whatever equivalent of file allocation tables are now. But, since so many people say directory I've learned to use it interchangeably with folder. Directory feels more technical and somehow more closely attached to the concept of a path. I dunno, words are weird!

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    [–] eah@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Folder is better. On disk, a folder is a list of pairs of a name and number, mapping the items in the folder to their location on the disk i.e. it's a directory. The days before computerization are before my time, but, as I understand it, library index cards worked this way. You might have a card for each author which listed the books by that author with the location of the index card on that book, and you might have directory cards on subjects or keywords too, and the card on a book might point to the location of the book on the shelf and the card for the author, etc., or something like that. It would be most confusing to call these directory cards "folders". The computer does the same thing internally, but the user interface has hidden away any notion of directory. They're logically folders. It's only a directory if you're writing a file system implementation.

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    [–] inari@piefed.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Too late, you're gonna get corrected by 4 people

    [–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Jokes on them, I’ve been a windows guy so long they have always been directories; I started in the dos days.

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    [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    wait, windows uses folder?

    i've been saying directory since DOS. CD means Change Directory.

    [–] cute_noker@feddit.dk 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Dont windows also have a rmdir

    I dont know if there are any commands with folder ? Maybe it was a marketing stunt somewhere along the way

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    [–] lordziv@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Also dir to list director contents

    [–] FedX@quokk.au 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Me, earlier today, referring to Niri as a desktop instead of a "window manager," which is also wrong as it's a Wayland compositor.

    [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    As an old person who started on MS-DOS, I've always said "directory", and "program". I had trouble switching to "folder" and then more recently "app". I'm happy to have switched to Linux a couple of years ago so I can just say directory again. The word app, short for application, came from Apple, with the iPhone. No doubt they also liked that is the first three letters of Apple, too. It was specifically for the little programs that ran on iPhone, not meant to replace "program" across the board. But, here we are. Also, "web app" was used to refer to those websites or pages that worked like apps on iPhones, before apps became commonplace. Now, everything from Notes to Photoshop is an "app".

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    [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    "Task Manager, my beloved"

    "I'm System Monitor now" (Arch+KDE)

    "Apologies. System Monitor, my beloved"

    Also, the bottom bar with icons and stuff is called "Task Manager" on KDE, which is mildly confusing

    [–] febrile@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I Used to be like this but now I disagree. I intentionally use β€œfolders” instead of Linux directories or gitlab groups.

    Folders are distinct and meaningful, while directories and groups have multiple meanings not clear without context.

    [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    In spanish wy kind of use both interchangeably... carpeta, directorio.

    [–] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

    If I'm dealing with text, it's a directory. If I'm clicking around, it's a folder.

    [–] raman_klogius@ani.social 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    At least both sides agree that the big piece of silicon wafer inside the PC is called the motherboard, and not some deranged bougie term like logic board... 🀦

    [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

    The biggest silicon wafer is going to be your CPU or GPU. The motherboard is mostly fiberglass and copper.

    [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Motherboard made more sense when there were daughterboards.

    At this point without that the term is much more meaningless compared to alternatives like System board or Main logic board.

    [–] poinck@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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    [–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Uhm, ackshually, the motherboard is fiberglass, a.k.a. GRP, with copper traces imprinted on it.

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    [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Such simpletons. I use the term File Name Category, since "folders" and "directories" are just a fancy way of referring to longer file names used to sort files. You would think someone using linux would understand this.

    I use Arch BTW. 🎩

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    [–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    "I'll show you my tiny wand"

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