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@AuroraSine As a Fp5 user, I've always been satisfied with both the hw and the sw of the phone. I wish you the same! Enjoy your new device! π
Thank you very much ππΉ
I ve been wanting to do something like this. but one thing I'm not sure off is the Google compatibility πππ
I can't quit it cold turkey. for instance need Google maps and it's location sharing. i would love it if the Google apps were installed on this phone as second class citizens. is this possible?
You could just install Google Maps? Like, still gives Google access to your location and movement, but it's a free device, you can put on it whatever you want.
You could also get a Fairphone with the Stock Rom, that should include Google Services. You could install a different Rom later.
There's also self hosted FOSS location sharing services, but for those, you need a server or VPS, and do some legwork to set them up.
Hi, thx for your Comment.
I'm aware that you can't stop all at once. For me it was also step by step until I could boycott everything completely. Anyway, I looked into it for you. There's an "App Lounge" where you can log in with your Gmail account to access Google apps. You can also browse there anonymously. I think it's like the Aurora Store, but I'm not really familiar with that. As for Maps, Murena apparently has its own map app, but I use the one from F-Droid "OpenStreetMap". I hope I could help you.
thanks. it looks like I can install Google maps from here. but I'm not sure it will allow location sharing to work as that needs to run in background and constantly update location
You're welcome. So I've done some research and apparently many features won't work at all because the necessary Google background services are missing (de-googled system). I can really recommend OpenStreetMap as an alternative to you.
I use Organic Maps (which uses Open Street Map Data) on my Murena Fairphone 6 and it's doing a decent job.
That said, it IS a downgrade. The search is not as forgiving of typos. Also, you often won't find a local buissnes at all when searching for it by name. So i look the address up and search for it on Organic maps.
I am okay with that. It's okay to loose some convenience for not supporting an american megacorp. But i do understand that this is a personal decision to make.
@Gloomy @AuroraSine CoMaps is an Organic Maps fork maintained by former Organic Maps developers, due to the opaque governance of Organic Maps, which is meant to become more proprietary in the future.
You can take a look at CoMaps' open letter :
Embarrassingly enough i was aware of said letter and just messed up the two when i switched phones some weeks ago π
Thanks for bringing it up, i switched to Comaps now (again).
@Gloomy @AuroraSine comaps on Android here. Agree with your comments totally except it being a downgrade... it is just different.
I assume using it through the browser doesn't let you do the location sharing how you need?
What about openstreetmap.org?
I use it already. but convincing the family to switch and use that is not easy. (we location share constantly for safety)
Very cool. Maybe I'll get one, depending how the partnership between Motorola and Graphene goes. And on the pricing. 599β¬ for the Fairphone 6 with e/os is a little expensive for me, but I don't know how much a Graphene Motorola would be.
The battery life seems surprisingly good, which could convince me to get it. Can you confirm if the 54 hours mixed use claim on their website is any accurate?
They also included this little pin to get into the SIM tray slot, which I thought was great. There was no charger in the box but that's intentional on their part.
Two small notes. The sim tray pins are included with practically every phone. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that doesn't include them. And the lack of charger is due to EU law. Maybe they wouldn't include it anyway, but at the moment the EU is forbidding including chargers with phones to 'reduce e-waste'.
Not sure what their mixed use criteria would entail, but my current stats for a charge ~19 hours ago with 2 hours of Lemmy scrolling:
Welcome, friend! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I am enjoying mine!
Might I suggest Lawnchair as your launcher?
I saw the link. its really cool. For now, all my apps are on one page, and it works fine for me. But later I can try. Thxπ
Happy for you. Could soon be joining the club
Will fdroid stop working on my FF4 in September if I don't switch from the stock Android it came with?
Haven't even signed into the play store. I don't want it. Most apps installed by fdroid, a few from APK.
By default it will be blocked, but you can enable it by setting a developer option and waiting 24 hours. Or you can install /e/os or similar
Hello. For the answer, I'd need to know if you have a degoogled system like /e/OS. Fairphones can be delivered either with Play Protect (Google-certified) or without it. If your device is Google-certified, it's possible your F-Droid apps might stop working then. Degoogled systems aren't affected as far as I know.
Amazing, enjoy your new /e/OS. I'm planning to buy one. Since you're from Germany, how is your banking experience? Are you using any traditional German banks (like DKB, N26, Commerzbank)?
That's my only concern, but happy to hear experience from /e/OS users :-)
DKB asks you to call their hotline to activate your phone. Otherwise everything is peachy.
There are no issues with DKB on degoogled Android.
Commerzbank have recently started claiming non-Google phones were "rooted" (which is bullshit) and refuse app-to-app pushTAN communication. One must work around that using a (PC-based) browser and photoTAN. Motherfuckers.
Exciting! I'd like to switch to /e/OS but I don't know if doing so would mean my banking app stops working. Do you have any experience with your own bank app on this OS?
I use Barclays and Lloyds successfully. Biometric fingerprint login doesn't work for Barclays but does for Lloyds.
Several Swiss banking apps work without problems on my FP4 with /e/OS.
Enjoy your phone! Could you tell me if RCS messages work on Google Messages?
Enjoy your phone! Could you tell me if RCS messages work on Google Messages?
Hello, thank you very much. So I looked into this and according to my research, RCS doesn't work on /e/OS because there are no Google services running in the background. The system is intentionally deGoogled. But this isn't personal experience, only research.
I got mine last year with the e/OS version (that's what's offered in the US). I have not used google messages specifically, but I have had trouble with RCS messages on the default messaging app
Thank you! I would like to buy a degoogled phone, too. But I really need RCS since many people don't want to use Signal, Telegram, Matrix, XMPP etc. I may buy Motorola with GrapheneOS, not sure yet.