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For anyone who's unaware, gmail is scanning your messages to sell you things and train its AI. Not that that matters to most gmail users. That they would lie about EE2E is par for the course.

[โ€“] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

PGP and implementations based on it are the only secure option. Anything that is a web app is inherently insecure. Thunderbird supports it on both desktop and mobile.

[โ€“] Laser@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How does PGP protect email metadata?

[โ€“] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you cant afford to leave any metadata, you cant use server based systems and need to use minimalistic P2P stuff instead. Like Briar for example.

[โ€“] Laser@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

When it comes to the discussion of securing email with PGP (in practice GPG), I always refer to this article: https://www.latacora.com/blog/2019/07/16/the-pgp-problem/ which explains the issue quite well.

Dude, I was telling people about tutamail on my other account and they blocked me from this instance. Why? I don't understand. (.-.) Oh well, as long as the mail alternatives are getting out there in some way.

[โ€“] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why don't we move on from using email for anything important? Perhaps matrix. It works like email. Or some new Fediverse platform for this, with end to end encryption of course.

[โ€“] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Email was the original fediverse.

[โ€“] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

There's like nothing wrong with email

[โ€“] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious if anyone sends encrypted emails to gmail users, and how they do it. I just turn off encryption when sending to them.

[โ€“] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I always send encrypted emails to friends and family. For secure communication, I use PGP or services like StartMail that support encrypted email. Itโ€™s simple and effective as it ensures only the intended recipient can read the message. When I first started using encryption, Iโ€™d share my public key with people directly, and theyโ€™d send me encrypted emails using that. Now it's become second nature and I encourage others to do the same. It might seem a bit inconvenient at first, but if more people start using encryption, itโ€™ll become a normal part of email communication.