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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Most everything that's taught as the US "defending itself" against a foreign aggressor.

Yes, there are some specific instances the US legitimately needed to defend itself. However, this narrative that the US, especially as its promoted under the guise of "respecting our troops", is mostly false.

Most wars the US fought were imperial and fought for the ambitions of American oligarchs.

I'd actually argue the narrative that's central to US propaganda, that "soldiers fight for our freedom" is extremely harmful to said soldiers themselves. Their service and sometimes lives are wasted on the rich, not for freedom. People should really stop joining the military until that changes.

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 192 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The United States was founded on principles of liberty and equality for all.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 84 points 6 days ago (7 children)

While I was taught that in elementary school, I was also taught about the 3/5ths compromise as early as middle school. By the time high school rolled around I was being taught about reconstruction and the corrupt bargain of 1877. I guess I’m lucky I got a good education in the north because I am aware that’s not necessarily the standard nationally.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

I was also taught these things in the south, living in North Florida. As part of a 1 semester Florida history class in middle school, we also went into each of the spanish conquistadors and how they murdered their way across the continent.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Technically, it was founded on the principles of liberty and equality for all. Just not the practices of liberty and equality for all. it was an aspiration, a goal of our forefathers.

But the way they teach it in school is pretty deceptive— as if it was all accomplished magically on that day in 1776, when, even today, it’s a constant struggle— a goal that we’re much closer to, but still remains elusive. that’s the part they don’t teach.

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 148 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I remember in school learning about the different areas of the tongue tasting different things, and then we had an experiment to try it, and everyone was like "wow it works!" but I told the teacher it didn't work for me, and I got told I was doing it wrong =w=

Anywho, the entire thing about different tastes being localized to different areas is bullshit, so that's 1 point to me and 0 to the teacher

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My daughter and I did this for one of her science projects. I would drop lemon juice or sugar water somewhere on her tongue, and she was able to taste everything everywhere.

It was so long ago I don't remember, but I hope we got a good grade on that one!

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The lesson is to give the authority figure the answer they want to hear so they'll leave you alone!

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[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 134 points 6 days ago (6 children)

30 years ago, it was still taught that we Belgians went to the Congo out of benevolence, to help lift up the people there. Not one mention of rubber quota or chopped off hands. Fuck that indoctrination.

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 74 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Checks and balances in the US government. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Constitutional rights being unassailable.

All these are lies. I think it can be fixed, but it won't be easy.

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 days ago

That's less a lie and more 'teaching the ideal.' The problem isn't learning how the system is supposed to work. That's how you learn to be a mechanic. You learn how an engine is supposed to work so you can spot where it's gone wrong. The issue is more one of there are millions of people and they get 10 minutes on how it's supposed to work and then only 3 of them go into politics and learn how it actually works/doesn't work. Democracy requires more than a one week chapter on civics, once a year. We all have to be mechanics, or at least be prepared to try.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 104 points 6 days ago (3 children)

France: the French revolution was poor people rioting. We are starting to accept that it was rich people killing each other to replace monarchy, and using poor people as a side-effect, kind of like... what we have right now, what a coincidence!

[–] oce@jlai.lu 59 points 6 days ago (9 children)

It was "self-made" rich people (bourgeoisie) vs "birthright" rich people (nobility). We still got some cool side-effects though. Some of those bourgeois legitimately kick started what we call left and progressive politics today (Maximilien Robespierre, Jean-Paul Marat).

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 91 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Working hard will get you rewarded. When really you get dunked on with more work.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Many countries, like America, had actual economic mobility. There was a time where working hard could improve your economic status.

My family lost everything. Twice. Once to over-leveraging before a mortgage collapse in 83, and secondly to a house fire. We lived in an absolute fleabag of a moldy motel, a stereotype like you'd see on-screen, for about 10 months. The mold was so bad we had tiny mushrooms.

We got back, both times, to a stable home life in a mortgage and a fresh start. Dad paid off his home before retirement, by working his absolute ass off.

That's just not feasible now, just one generation later.

Anyway, there was a time when hard work did get you something; so treat that as a historical thing and not a falsehood.

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[–] frankenswine@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] winkledinkle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much every history class not so subtly points you to the conclusion that the US had racism, it was bad, but we defeated it so people complaining now are just spoiled.

...when I was a kid. That shit is probably way worse now.

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 62 points 6 days ago (7 children)

That homework isn’t discriminatory. Not all kids have lives that allow them to do it. If you can’t cover all the bases in whole ass 8 hours I’m there a day that’s on you, not me. This is only true k - 12, college level courses are voluntary so having some homework could be considered ok.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (4 children)

"Communism is when the government does stuff."

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I remember my first description of communism from a teacher in 5th grade.

"The government can force you to work in any field they decide. If they need dentists, they might just force you go to dentists school for 4 years. If after that, they decide they need plumbers, they will send you to plumber school and you will be a plumber. You don't get to choose. If you don't like it, they will send you to Siberia, which is a bad place."

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[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (5 children)

In Germany, a lot of the times it's taught that we barely did colonialism. Like, "colonialism was bad but it was mostly other countries". Meanwhile, in reality, German colonialism saw the first mayor genocide of the 21st century.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh god, sometimes I feel like my English is pretty good and then stuff like this happens... :D

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[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 54 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Lies of omission count? I was in my 40s before I ever heard of the Tulsa Massacre.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 47 points 6 days ago (5 children)

They still teach the bullshit Thanksgiving story in most schools in the US.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Columbus discovered America.

At least this is what I was taught when I was in elementary school back in the '90s.

I have no idea if it's changed thus far.

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Pictures of the civil rights movement are in black and white even though color photography existed for decades. They're only in black and white to make kids think it was longer ago than it was.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks to everyone pointing out that teaching racism was more expensive if it was in color. Thanks for missing the point.

Edit: There are color photos of the civil rights movements, but my middle school textbooks chose to only use the black and white ones of people getting shot with fire hoses and beaten with billy clubs. Every other page of this hard bound textbook had color pictures in it, so saying it would cost more is a straw man argument. Strange coincidence. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/20/fact-check-most-civil-rights-era-images-werent-made-color/3210472001/

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 43 points 6 days ago

Color photos were a thing, but they were significantly more expensive than black and white until around the 1970s. They were mostly saved for special occasions.

Plus, news papers didn't really do much full color until the 80s. Before the mid 50s it was basically just the comic pages that had color. It was the launch of USA Today in 82 that popularized the way newspapers use color today.

Photographers capturing events shoot a lot of film, and there was no compelling reason to shoot in color at the time.

It's almost certainly isn't a conspiracy to make students think it happened a long time ago.

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[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Listening to authority with no critical thinking will make your life easier.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That different parts of your tongue taste different things.

When I was little, we did an experiment where we were supposed to "feel" which part of our tongue we were tasting things with, and I was like, "pretty sure I taste it everywhere". That teacher was fired for her anger issues at the end of the year, and that was certianly one of the moments where it came out, haha.

[–] TheBeardmancer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 days ago (7 children)

What they teach: humans only have five senses (touch, smell, etc) What is true: humans have ~20-30 senses (including time, balance, and many more)

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[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 34 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That Europeans discovered the 'new world', and that it was inhabited by 'savages' aka people with forgettable cultures, skills, and lifestyles.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The annual lie: Next year isn't going to be as easy as this year!

Middle School will be harder than Elementary School.

Junior High will be harder than Middle School.

Senior High will be harder than Junior High.

College will be harder than Senior High.

Working a real job will be harder than School.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

I frequently wanted to kill myself, the idea work would be even worse than school really didnt help because school was absolutely awful. So it will only get worse isn't a great message.

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[–] MrSelfDestruct@piefed.zip 31 points 6 days ago

The people who fought at the Alamo were heroes.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That a, e, i, o and u were the only vowels. So what's the vowel in sky?

I got marked incorrect for answering "a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes y"

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[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 27 points 6 days ago (4 children)
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 44 points 6 days ago (3 children)

More specifically that all drugs are the same type and intensity of bad.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

I remember that when I was getting this “lesson“, my first question was “what about medication’s?“ And my teacher replied with “those aren’t drugs“

And I replied “then why do they call it the drugstore?” then my teacher sent me to the principal’s office for being “smart“. I didn’t understand what was wrong with being “smart“.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Kind of related, but in fifth grade, on the first day of school, my teacher told us that our most important homework every day was to play and have fun, which gave me a lot of hope for the year.

But then it turns out that he assigned a lot of homework, and I felt like I never got to do the homework #1 of play and have fun. It seemed like he had lied to us about which homework was the most important because it didn't affect our grade whether or not we played after school, but if we didn't do homework, not only did it affect our grade, it also meant we got taken out of recess.

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When I was in school, they taught us the Tongue Map

For the uninitiated: the theory is that only certain sections of the tongue taste certain things, such as sweetness, sourness, bitterness, etc. It's also total bullshit.

I have heard of schools teaching this as a caution against blindly trusting authority. It's easily disprovable with a simple experiment, and we even did that in class. Simple stuff, like placing sugar on different parts of your tongue to see if you can only taste sweets in the sweet zone.

I told my teacher that I didn't taste any difference, it was all the same. She told me I must be wrong because that's not what it says in the book. That itself could have been a lesson about trusting authority, and I think that at the end of the day you could tell your class it was all an experiment. But that never happened and is a pretty heavy thing to lay on a six-year old.

Either way though, it's a valuable lesson in critical thought and blind trust.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Texas History

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