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Donald Trump lashed out at China for retaliating against his new tariffs, calling the country the "biggest abuser" of U.S. trade.

After Trump imposed an additional 34% tariff on Chinese goods, China responded with its own 34% tariff on U.S. products and suspended key imports.

Financial markets in both countries plunged, with U.S. economists warning of a potential recession.

Despite backlash, Trump defended his strategy, urging the Fed to cut rates and calling the tariffs a path to long-term gain. Critics warn of global economic instability and rising protectionism.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 144 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"W-when I specifically asked you not to...?"

Trump is incredibly weak. It blows my mind that anyone looks at that slug and sees anything other than a despicable, pathetic cretin.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Have you ever interacted with a magat?

They are cowards. All they have going for them is that they are going to call the cops or get their gun. They don't see trump as a sniveling coward. They se themselves. And since they are big and strong that means trump is big and strong.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was going to reply, but your username made me miss

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

XCOM hit percentages are real fake news.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I understood that reference

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

100%

I work with some die hard MAGA (one had a custom "NFOWARS" plate until he crashed his car driving drunk) and this describes them to a T. Weak people that see weak people act like "strong men" on TV and latch their whole identity onto them.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We live in a completely different information environment than Trump fans.

Spend some time watching the MAGA media ecosystem, and you can see why people hang on his every word. I blame them, influencers profiting off MAGAland, more than any supporter consuming it.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Spend some time watching the MAGA media ecosystem

I have. I have family, some of whom I lived with during some of the MAGA years.

He's no less pathetic there.

At some point, you have to accept that people legitimately love the bullshit spewing out of his mouth. The people who go to his rallies and watch him live, no intermediaries, fall over themselves with adoration.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've watched fox news try blame a crash 1 day after tariff announcements as somehow Biden's fault. Not a very convincing argument for why i shouldn't blame Trump for thousands of dollars in personal investment losses.

Am i missing some step, like turning off my brain? Will I then be able to happily vote for someone who is personally fucking me with almost surgical precision?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You’re just a totally different base than Fox's. They're telling viewers want they want to hear, which has always been this, for decades. They have to, as otherwise they'd switch channels and lose engagement blaming non-liberals for anything.

No you just aren't in a ideological cult information bubble, they aren't watching fox to learn or gain context they watch fox, listen to conservative radio, and consume smooth brain influencers to reinforce the narrative. Its the same reason that the Soviets and NorKs have constant broadcasts on telephone poles with the only key difference being that these folks are doing it voluntarily, after all if you have a willing audience it's a lot easier to control them. They need that constant reinforcement or it starts to break down.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

And if you want to disrupt the pipeline of shit that eventually leads to Trump, that's where to start.

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The American arrogance is overwhelming. Presenting trade deficit as reason for tariffs, and then threaten other countries if they “retaliate”.

Just die already.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Please don't equate what Trump does and says to "The American arrogance"

Please and thank you

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You say as though the attitudes presented by Donald Trump are not emblematic of centuries of American exceptionalism and white supremacist christian nationalism. Donald is not the first fascist in America. Nor is he the first American to believe that America is the protagonist nation of the world and has the absolute authority to do what it pleases and harm whoever it chooses.

Trump is a manifestation of American arrogance. He falls perfectly in line with the same ultra nationalist dogma that has plagued the nation since at least the time of Reagan, who was himself standing in the ideological shadow of Jim Crow and the confederacy. Trump did not just walk into office. He was elected. Millions of people support the exact arrogance and egotism he espouses. They support his claims of American exceptionalism. They voted him in on a platform of global American power, of the power to weaponize cruelty and suffering on anyone who falls outside the categories of white, cisgender/heterosexual, American, and Christian. Those who voted for him live and breathe American arrogance, and he is an endless supply of it.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well said. On top of all that, he is the President of the United States of America engaging in that position's role as leading representative in the country's interactions on the global stage. Like it or not, that makes his arrogance American arrogance.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Actually, in every definition of the word, on the international stage, he most definitely speaks for you.

If not, please go ahead and overturn the tariff bullshit.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

He does though, it’s our problem even if we fucking hate it (which we certainly do!)

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, its just half the country.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Did Trump dressed in his costume even say "thank you" "please" or "Xia Xia Ni" after telling china not to retaliate?

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Wǒ qǐngqiú nǐ bùyào bàofù, xièxiè.

[–] Helvetica@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When we're in a bona fide depression he's going to point to this as the reason he failed. "Look, if China, those damn Chinese, if the China had just let me grab them by the wallet, if they played nice, well we'd all by billionaires by now. I promise. The best billionaires. Believe me. It's China's fault."

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WanderingThoughts 3 points 2 days ago

And see him do the angry accordion

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

when trump plays tennis complains the other person sends the ball back

[–] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago

There a Historian Sarah Paine. There a bunch of talks on YouTube she did. Very good.

But she mentions a few times how the US is playing half court Tennis. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QUcdQLEhsc0

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What did he expect to happen?

That's like complaining about someone punching back after you sucker-punched them.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Worse, it's like complaining about someone punching back in a boxing ring during a fight that you scheduled months ago. And you've been shit-talking the opponent for decades.

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 days ago

"Fuck around, find out orange american" China

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

"I'm gonna punch you cuz you upset me and then we're gonna be done, so don't punch me back!"

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

After the tariffs were unveiled in front of TV cameras at the White House, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told those countries named: "Do not retaliate, sit back, take it in, let's see how it goes, because, if you retaliate, there will be escalation."

I'm sure that went over well. Xi loves sitting back and taking it in, especially when this is on Trump's mind:

"'Oh, he used the word 'rape.' That's right. I used the word 'rape,'" Trump said at the Detroit Economic Club after his remarks were met with what sounded like some gasps from the audience. "They raped our country," he repeated.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seriously, now, who would you bet on in a war of wits?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Trump showed up to a war of wits completely unarmed.

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Republicans use rape language so casually, they make me want to puke.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Trump defended his strategy, urging the Fed to cut rates

Look, I'm not an economist. Nor do I pretend to have anything more than a YouTube education on how a country responds to interest rate shifts.

But wouldn't the fed cutting the rates plunge us directly into an immediate recession and worsen inflation? I mean, the fed cutting rates during COVID led to the inflation we're now seeing, right?

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Didn’t the fed cut rates way before COVID as well, and then after COVID they cut it way down to nothing?

That’s part of the reason for the housing crisis- in order to correct, when rates went way up, no one is giving up their (relatively) low payment, their actually low interest rates; even if they’re gonna spend all their gains on a new place they’ll still have to pay a large markup on whatever’s left over (if they can even find a place because inventory is like 1/4th what it normally is, mostly estate sales and poor condition, etc)

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Ha if he manages to get a rate cut in addition to his insane tariffs the USA is going to long for the inflation of Biden's term.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People don’t seem to appreciate how many instigators of WWII are also happening right now.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

US lands pretty much came out of WW2 untouched except Pearl Harbour, so US grew rapidly while rest of world has a lot of rebuilding to do.

Warmonger Trump is now replicating that and so repeating history to start WW3. From forcing Ukraine to surrender to russia just like how Czechoslovakia was forced to surrender to nazi Germany and now Trump is pushing every country into protectionism trade wars.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Chamberlain didn't collude with the Nazis in looting Czechosolovakia after they held off the Germans for two years against all odds. What Trump is doing is far worse.

And in WW2, the protectionism trade wars came a decade or more before the cynical appeasement.

[–] Vikthor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

On the other hand Trump haven't forbidden Ukraine to fight back on their own(yet). Which is what west did to Czechoslovakia.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never thought I would find myself rooting for China as a Canadian from the sidelines....

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago

"I can excuse genocide in Gaza, but I draw the line at uncivil cheeto"