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[–] pm_me_weird_thoughts@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago

Germany is, after U.S, the most pro Israel country of all countries

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

Not directly, but the government supported getting there.

[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 128 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I take comfort in knowing I would be decimated before even realizing what's happening in the case on a full-on nuclear warfare.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (19 children)

Except Germany keeps delivering weapons to Israel, gives them diplomatic and political coverage, and apparently even has planes in the air to support Israeli fighter jets in their attacks on Iran.

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[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd find Germany less responsible for WWIII if maybe they ya know didn't support a genocidal terrorist ethnostate at the expense of domestically suppressing speech calling out that foreign policy, but I guess it just be like that sometimes

[–] albert180@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

It's very mean of Germany that foreigners who trash University property and threaten their staff violently face deportation.

How can they do such a suppression of free speech?

[–] Moonweedbaddegrasse@lemmy.world 170 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Wellllll... If it hadn't been for Germany, Israel probably wouldn't exist.....

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago

They're technically correct, which is the best kind of correct 👍

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 114 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Apparently germany is delusional and genocidal as usual.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 88 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Germany is Europe's biggest supporter of Israel.

The biggest issue is that we, the EU, are on the side of Germany now. And their track record with world wars isn't great.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (22 children)

To be fair to the Germans, I can understand how the Holocaust is integrated into them as a kind of "original sin". What was done to the Jews under the Nazis was so unspeakable terrible, and German society as a whole has done an enormous job at ingraining in themselves that nothing of the sort should ever repeat itself.

The problem is that "nothing of the sort" has translated into "opposing Jews in any way". It seems to me like Germany sees itself as bound to support Jews (and thereby the Jewish state Israel) no matter what in order to "atone for their sins", and I can understand that. However, right now, Israel is suddenly the state committing the closest thing we've seen to the Holocaust since the actual Holocaust. It's very hard for Germany to oppose Israel without tickling a part of their history that they've done a laudable job at condemning.

What Germany needs now, is to separate their history from their current politics. I understand that it's difficult, and I don't have an answer to how it should be done, but it needs to happen, lest the same crimes are committed again.

[–] p3n@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Israel is suddenly the state committing the closest thing we’ve seen to the Holocaust since the actual Holocaust.

I don't say this to excuse anything Israel is doing, but this is gross recency bias that is glossing over numerous genocides that have occurred since the Holocaust, including:

Not technically genocides, but also worth mentioning in the same vein:

So ya, other than those events, this is the closest thing to the Holocaust since the actual Holocaust.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 36 points 4 days ago

They are complicit in supporting and arming Israel as well as supporting the genocide.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Nope it was always the capitalist class.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 3 days ago

Last time, germany at least had the guts to spearhead the reich. This time they're just a bootlicker, following their imperialist friends.

Death to Genocidesmany for its support of the apartheid regime in west palestine.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Germany is the second largest provider of weapons to Israel, and a huge longtime consumer of Russian gas, this is a tonedeaf as hell meme.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago (11 children)

They're highly complicit in Israel's actions.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Israel: we wouldn't have started it without Germany's security guarantees!

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https://xcancel.com/josemendes2/status/1934190961719972153#m

Except we are once again fighting on the side of genocide.

[–] benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Germans when they realise WW2 was caused by an man from Austria

Germans when they realise WW1 was caused by the assassination of the archduke of Austria and the subsequent declaration of war from Austria-Hungary on Serbia.

You could say Austria is responsible, but Hitler was in Germany, so WW2 is kinda our problem…

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