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The only reason Israel, America's attack dog in the Middle East, has started a war of aggression on Iran is because Iran dares to oppose US foreign policy in the region. Had Iran got nuclear weapons they would be able to continue doing so with impunity.
That's it. All of that human rights, authoritarianism bullshit is propaganda for you, the westerner, to get your support for this imperialist war. The Mullahs hang gays from cranes so Israel should vaporize everyone in Iran, including the gays? Women who don't want to wear headscarves are being tortured so we will bomb all their apartment buildings to rubble? An adult person with average intelligence should be able to see themselves through the logic that a war with Iran is not going to improve an Iranian's circumstances in any way. Do not support this war.
Also let's remember what is exactly reason why Iran look like it look in the first place: it's because USA couped democratically elected center-left government, propped up the shah, helped him exterminate any and all leftists there so the only possible opposition force that remained was the religious extremists (who btw were also kept on hold by west as alternative).
The Shah was couped with the help of leftist who got backstabbed by the islamists. They weren't the only possible opposition, they were just the most politically savvy opposition.
I think another major reason for Israel to stoke this conflict is that it benefits Netanyahu politically. Without an active war he would be out of office and likely being prosecuted for his many crimes. So long as he can keep Israel embroiled in conflict, he can stay in power.
it’s not like Iran isn’t known for authoritarianism and human rights abuses.
Iran certainly has its problems, but they don’t hold a candle to Israel’s (or the US’s) human rights abuses.
Meanwhile Iran has as much right to develop nukes as any country: precisely zero.
Okay? Iran isn’t even developing any, while Israel has had hundreds for decades, which they developed in secret as a rogue state.
Why's this removed?
I would said it's because bothsiding this conflict where the nazi entity is clearly attacker, also for idealist prattling about "rights" to have nukes while the only country which already used them against civillians have thousands.
I'll try to say this delicately enough to not get banned...
The modlog (which also contains the full text of my post) cites as the reason for the removal of my post "rule 1" which according to the sidebar is "Be civil and nice."
I think they consider any criticism of the government of Iran to be "incivility" and/or "meanness".
(Hopefully I'm not misinterpreting the mods here. Mods, please feel free to step in and correct any such misrepresentation.)
Anything to stop the ongoing Israeli genocide. A tonne of that crap about Iran is just overblown fear mongering from the west anyways. They've got their issues sure but not much worse than the US
They hanged a man on the anniversary of Kian's death. Kian was a 10 year old who got shot by security forces. So the IRI pinned the murder on someone else and hanged him. Two years earlier Basijis first kidnapped a 16 year from the protests, then raped and beat her to death. They returned her body two weeks later, claiming she jumped off a building. Those were two of the at least 551 deaths during those protests. The US reported 19 deaths during the George Floyd protests. 19 too much. Not on the same scale as Iran. Domestically, those two are not (nah, were not, don't know what the Dons gonna do) comparable.
I have in-laws in Iran. That "crap" wasn't overblown, people got beaten and raped for protesting.
So yeah, Im not gonna cry about Iranian hits on Israeli industry or military bases, but I'm not gonna celebrate Iran either.
The same US that has continuously gave unconditional support & weapons for murdering over 50,000 in Gaza since October 7, 2023, including over 20,000 children? The same US that killed over 100,000 civilians in Iraq? Obama had Chelsea Manning imprisoned & subject to years of inhumane punishment for showing the American people what was actually going on. Really does take a lot of pretending to walk in your shoes.
They didn't kill 100k civilians, they killed millions. Just because they didn't personally shoot each and every one doesn't mean they didn't willfully create the conditions to starve them or deny them access to essential services.
True, lest not forget who has behind pretty much every recent conflict & escalation in the Middle East. Israeli influence in American politics is out of control:
Allies don't draw you into provocative & endless wars so you can fight on their behalf. They don't use agents to black mail & control your politicians, & to influence your corporations & media. Nor do they buy them off or influence them to act against the interests of their people.
There is only one terrorist nation in the Middle East right now the US needs to worry about, and the least they could do is stop funding their genocides with tax payer money.
19 too much.
Weight until you hear how many people the US has murdered overseas. Though I know westerners don't care about foreigners.
I don't see a source in your words.
Oh wait
I have in-laws in Iran. That “crap” wasn’t overblown, people got beaten and raped for protesting.
Just some second-hand hearsay, is that what passes for a source for you?
oh yeah , just some totally uncorroborated hearsay.. L Do you want more? https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-executes-two-more-protesters-ongoing-crackdown https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-protests-security-forces-intensify-deadly-crackdown-kurdish-region https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iran/11062025
Totally just second hand hearsay. do you still want more?