Like is this auto and aerospace industry support? Is this just making it cheaper to ship to China? Is it making it easier to buy Canadian instead of Chinese steel?

If I need a train car full of steel, shipping is going to happen by train anyways no? It'd cost a fortune by truck and most of Canada is land locked.

Just saying I don't understand the economic goals here.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

It'll be going to the border, this is taxpayer subsidy of US tariff costs to keep steel suppliers costs down so they can sell down south.

[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Incentive to buy Canadian with "Half Off Shipping"

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's often cheaper to ship something on a boat and have it travel 15,000km around the continent than it is to send it 3,000km on a train.

Maybe fix the rail industry instead of just putting money in their pocket.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

On the other hand it's significantly cheaper (and more efficient and less polluting) to ship across the country by rail than it is by truck.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Isn't this also to do with how massive a ship is, so shipping is cheap per container?

[–] ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The solution? Bigger trains, obviously.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ships on tracks

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Tracks on ship!

oh wait, they already have that in italy!

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

That's a valid point I hadn't considered.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trains are also massive though

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Have you seen a cargo ship though, the train car comtainers on it look tiny, and are stacked above deck like a tower and below decks. Sometimes as much as 10000 to 20000 containers, All going one place.

Trains are 100 containers long maybe, I think it is only 50 in Europe. And have to switch routes to get across the network, and makes delayed stops in trainyards for connection changes .

They just don't have the same bandwidth as a giant ship.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

a cargo ship can be used to ship a lot of trains, like hundreds of trains

[–] theBannanaAndCoffeeDude@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like how the have the crappy yard locomotives in the background. Never far from the shop because their constantly breaking down, and pollution like there no tomorrow.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

The pollution caused by flying mass instead makes a crappy yard locomotive with pollution like no tomorrow look like a fart in a hurricane.

Something tells me it's not about the pollution.