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I am thinking of doing freelance web development and I'm currently building my portfolio for it. However, I don't have any degree at all and I live in an expensive country. My friend however says that I still might have a chance if I make good quality stuff. Right now I'm even working on creating a video platform website similar to YouTube (with it being fully functional) just to impress potential customers.

Would that work?

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[–] nathan@feddit.org 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

no, that most probably won’t work.

Being a freelance software engineer myself for four years I can only advise against persuing a career as freelance developer at this point.

The market is fucked up, it’s nearly impossible to get new gigs and LLMs are a big part of the reason why. Also they give companies a weapon to negotiate lower rates. There’s a special place in hell for these people.

Unsolicited advise incoming: Do you have any relevant work experience or are you even an employee? Of so: Great! Hold on to your job to as long as possible or get one.

And join a union!

[–] freelance_n_230487@lemmy.ml -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Unsolicited advise incoming: Do you have any relevant work experience or are you even an employee? Of so: Great! Hold on to your job to as long as possible or get one.

I don't have a job and I have been trying to find one for like 2y now. The job market here in my country (Canada) is so messed up thanks to the government and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Thanks to the government for flooding the job market with way too many immigrants from the 3rd world who are happy to work like slaves for less than the regular minimum wage, subsidizing up to like 30% of their wages, intentionally not punishing the businesses for fraudulently selling LMIA's (which is illegal) for very high prices, and also allowing them to make a whole lot of money from giving the immigrants a whole lot of PR's! And the government keeps bringing them in for votes.

I have tried getting a job at places like McDonald's, Tim Hortons, Bar Burrito, the local grocery stores, bakery shops, .etc, but with no success. The people who work at these places are mostly immigrants from the 3rd world.

And yes, I have also tried asking my friends if their company is hiring, but that didn't work out, thanks to the government for destroying the economy as well.

Don't have anything against the immigrants themselves, it's just the bad government policies and greedy companies.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

IMO the hardest part is finding clients who pay decent and regularly. This often has more to do with luck, connections, etc. than with portfolio. But I think a decent portfolio is a prerequisite.

Related: Supreme Clientele

[–] oce@jlai.lu 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm in a different field of engineering, but my first thought is that because of "AI" there's going to be/is a massive flood of "freelance developers" and it's going to be even harder than before to stick out of the no-diploma no-pro-experience (full remote?) crowd. Maybe freelancers here can give a better picture.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m a self-taught web developer and it took me ages to finally get my act together, but what finally landed me a professional position was having extensive examples of systems I created while working for non-development companies. So even though it was mainly fast food, warehouse and shipping work I was able to prove myself by saying things like “I developed an application that allowed me to dump CSV from Sage then process it to track orders normally tracked only on paper” and “I developed a system to manage food cost.”

[–] freelance_n_230487@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Well, I have no previous work experience like that, but I have a friend that runs a house renovation business and one who runs a concrete finishing business. Both of them I think also have lots of good connections.

What I was thinking I could do is ask them if they need a website or anything or know somebody that does and do stuff either for free or for really cheap at first. Also, focus on making stuff that's better and more complicated (I mean, not just stuff like simple landing pages) than what an AI or cheap programmers from places like India or China could do.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 points 7 hours ago

Usually when people ask what I do I say I’m a web application developer rather than just web developer just to differentiate between what you’re saying (static sites, graphic design focused) and business applications.

[–] vanillama@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago

than what an AI or cheap programmers from places like India or China could do.

People abroad making less money has more to do with the cost of living, different regulations and so on, not necessarily skill. I'm a mid developer with years of professional experience and my salary is shit for US standards, but it allows me to live okayish here, so that's why we put up with it. Immigrants also often face a precarious position (such as a visa status being tied to their work, or prosecution by the authorities, or not being part of a union in an otherwise unionized industry, etc), so them getting paid badly is, again, not always related to skill. I've met Arab doctors who are cab drivers in Europe.

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Having conducted technical interviews after managers have screened the candidates' resumes, I second this. Businesses absolutely look at example works, precisely because it's what they care about: it doesn't take a leap of the imagination that if someone has churned out excellent work for hire, that they can do it again once hired on.

It's a bit harder for prospective employers to take someone at their word without works that they can point to, or can succinctly describe said works in sufficient detail.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly freelance was hard even before AI let people make awful bullshit insecure websites. Its over now until AI gets properly expensive for what it costs to produce.

[–] 123@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Or larger companies start to notice the large gaps in security affecting their bottom line due to reviews with large lines of code getting what's a rubber stamp at best.

I'm guessing this will take years though, companies tend to not care unless they lose large contracts and are happy to throw individual managers or directors under the bus to appease a client.