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The Justice Department and ATF said they would rescind the “zero-tolerance” policy aimed at firearm dealers who don’t comply with federal gun sale laws.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 48 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Good idea with tens of thousands of very angry people being put out of work.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They probably hope people will point those guns at each other instead of at them.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I wish I could disagree.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's performative...

Bidens legislation was "let's hold dealers accountable for breaking this law" but dealers were already being held accountable anyways. If someone wants to buy a gun but can't pass a background, they buy one "used" and don't have to do it. Waaaaay easier than hoping a FFL will risk their license for you.

It was something that sounded good, but had at best a negligible effect.

trump did more for gun control than Biden, but the SC struck it down:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/14/politics/supreme-court-bump-stocks/index.html

trump fucking hates guns except for the ones carried by people under his command. I'm only surprised he hasn't went after the 3d lower loophole since that's what Luigi used

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Dealers, by and large, were NOT being held accountable

More than half of all stores with violations transferred guns without running a background check correctly, waiting for the check to finish or properly recording the results. More than 200 dealers were cited for selling guns to people who indicated on background check paperwork that they were prohibited from owning them. Dozens made false statements in official records, a violation that includes facilitating illegal straw purchases.

A Florida gun dealer got in trouble for giving a Taurus handgun to a convicted felon in the parking lot and an Arkansas pawn shop was cited for selling a firearm to a customer even though he’d failed the background check because of an active restraining order. In Ohio, one store transferred guns without conducting background checks 112 times; another was missing some 600 firearms. A Pennsylvania gun retailer racked up 45 violations and received eight warnings from the ATF. But the store was allowed to remain in business, and went on to sell a shotgun to a man who used it to kill four family members, including his 7-year-old half-brother.

and then...

A single violation is enough to shutter a gun shop if ATF officials can prove that the store willfully broke federal regulations. In the vast majority of the cases analyzed by The Trace and USA TODAY, the ATF gave violators the lightest penalty available: a boilerplate warning letter reminding them that their compliance is critical to “reduce violent crime and protect the public.” The agency revoked a gun dealer’s license in less than 3 percent of cases.

https://www.thetrace.org/2021/05/atf-inspection-report-gun-store-ffl-violation/

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

More than 200 dealers were cited for selling guns to people who indicated on background check paperwork that they were prohibited from owning them. Dozens made false statements in official records, a violation that includes facilitating illegal straw purchases.

If that sounds like a big deal to you...

  1. You have no idea how many sales go thru an FFL daily in America.

  2. You have no idea how many privates sales happen daily

Zero judgement for #2 tho, literally no one knows that, because it's untracked and without background checks except when handled state level by a few states

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I should have clarified, my response was pointed.

but dealers were already being held accountable anyways.

I disagree with the above statement.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 14 points 4 days ago
[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yea let's make arming pissed off people easier, good idea. This seems to counter a fascist agenda, wouldn't it make more sense to disarm the people that you intend to enslave?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 4 days ago

Precursor to selective enforcement? If you were considering owning a firearm, right the fuck now might be a good time for it. You want to practice with it, know how to clean it, stock up on ammo, all before you "need" it.

Because the moment you think "I should have a gun right now," you're a couple months too late at best.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Yay more gun violence!

I can't wait to see the next double digit school shooting where all the little children are slaughtered whilst police is cowering until the perpetrator shoots themselves!

WOOHOOOO ITS GOING TO BE SO MUCH FUN, SO GREAT THE BEST FUN ANYONE HAS EVER HAD! GO TRUMP!

Please tell me i don't have to /s here...

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

Well there's a big ol' silver lining around that one, ain't there?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

While we're at it, undo the Biden Era police funding boost. Take away their raid gear.