Sometimes there's a final spice level called "Indian hot"
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There's actually a level beyond that, and it's called Andhra spicy.
The whole discourse over chilli heat is so moribund. Just eat stuff you like the flavour of, or eat stuff that makes your pain receptors go off if that’s what you like - it’s all fine.
Yes but the problem is finding out stuff from label what it could taste like. I've had 5 out 5 chilli stuff that tasted relatively quite normal to me, problem was I was craving something spicy. So I would appreciate some kind of universal spice level. I don't mind if I am on 3/10 or something. Just don't want to see 5/5 chilli taste mild.
Problems with rating like that would be people like this colleague of mine. He refuses to accept my spice tolerance is moderate like mine, he will go and buy stuff 5/5 chilli so he can feel he can eat spicy. And I suspect these 5/5 mild items are market towards people like him.
Yeah, I suppose. I asked for “Indian Hot” in New Zealand and that wasn’t very much at all - I figured Indians aren’t actually that much into chilli and antipodeans definitely aren’t, so it would be safe for me!
I grew up Cajun level spicy. I hate you jerks in the north that drag my spice tolerance reputation through the mud. White cajun spicy is the same as Indian spicy. A couple days ago a coworker from new jersey and I ordered the same "spicy" meal on a business trip. He couldn't finish it because it was too hot for him and I was irritated because it barely qualified as mild to me.
I'm so white that ghosts consider me pale, but I've never eaten food at a restaurant that's too spicy for me, and it annoys me every time I try a new place and I ask for "level 5 spicy" or whatever they call it on the menu and they're like "Okay - we start you out with a 2".
I know what I'm about. I want to burp in 2 hours and have my tongue start burning. Later this evening, I want to regret my life choices on the toilet.
So, where does mayo fall on that? /s
I once went to a restaurant with spice levels "Norse politics, American politics, Mexican politics, Indian politics"
Mexican politics are definitely spicier than Indian politics. In Mexico, politicians are often killed by gangs for opposing the gangs. Indian politics are still spicier than American politics though, because in India the government can raid and shut down news organizations for criticising the government.
Dunno. American politics are pretty spicy right now.
When I first went to an Indian restaurant, they asked whether we want "European" or "Indian" spice level food. One of us was brave, he ordered Vindaloo, "Indian". We others stayed "European". And he huffed, and he puffed, ....
I love seeing the variety in the takes on how bad "India hot" spice level is.
My limited anecdotal experience has landed my white ass firmly in the camp of "do not fuck with the flavors of back home."
My go-to core memory on that one is going out for wings with a group of friends a long time ago. We ordered a half dozen of whatever the place's ridiculous triple-atomic or equivalent was. I want to say 500,000 scoville and they give you gloves to eat it with. I think the deal was something like White Guy eats one of the wings and Indian Guy eats the rest, after the latter had claimed in a friendly way that they wouldn't be too hot.
Long story short, Indian Guy eats all available wings and licks his fingers like it's honey BBQ. He liked them and said yeah they do have some spice. White guy ruined the entire rest of his day and suffered for his hubris!
Most of the rest of us (I think all of us were additional White Guys) tried a tiny little piece of a wing or even just a half drop of the sauce. The spot where that little bit touched my tongue was numb and tingly for the rest of the day, lol.
Some people just shrug off that capsaicin.
All the wing places near me are crap, they have Atomic it's not even tabasco hot. I don't know how, but even their fucking jalapenos are weak.
Once upon a time, I was traveling in Thailand and went to a small restaurant in the middle of nowhere that mostly served tourists. There were two guys there who thought they could handle spice, so they told the waiter to bring them something spiced for Thai locals. He tried to discourage them, and offered to give them something that was really spicy for westerners, but they insisted that they wanted what locals eat.
When they received their dish, they couldn't even manage a single bite. I could overhear them, and they were convinced that the waiter was playing a joke on them, so when he came back they asked him to try it to see if it was good, trying to catch him out. The waiter had a few bites, said "yeah, tastes good", asked if they needed anything else, and when they said no, just went on to help his other customers. The tourists were just gobsmacked.
I know my limits, and decently high for "The West", but it's nowhere near the limits of a Thai person who likes spicy food. And, I know enough to know that when I'm on vacation, I want it even less spicy than normal. If I get something ultra spicy at home, I might have to spend some unpleasant time on the toilet. But, at least it's my own toilet. I really didn't want to be caught out in some rural Thai toilet or outhouse trying to process something that was too much for me and missing out on enjoying my vacation.
I will never forgive the companies that purposefully make jalapenos less spicy. Like they actually grow them to be less spicy just 'cause the specific USians can't handle it. Fucking insane.
I, on the other hand decided to grow my own jalapeños a few years back. I thought it would be cool to grow scorpion peppers, too.
The scorpion peppers were dehydrated to be added to dishes sparingly to rapidly increase the spice without changing much flavor.
Did you know that scorpion peppers and jalapeños cross-pollinate? Those were some of the hottest jalapeños I have ever had in my life.
5/7 would do again.
While peppers are prolific cross-pollinators, you don't see the results of that in the original fruit. If you grow a habanero and a jalapeno next to each other, the fruit they produce will be exactly what you would expect from an ordinary jalapeno and an ordinary habanero. If you save the seeds, however, and grow the F1 hybrid it will be a mix of the two parents phenotypes. It won't look exactly like either parent, and will be some combination of the two in flavor.
If the original fruit you got from the jalapeno was different than you expected it could have been a hybrid itself, or it could have been growing conditions encouraged a spicier flavor.
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We can go milder
- Midwest Mild
- Minnesota Middling Mild
- Wisconsin Wildly Mild
- Indiana Insanely Mild
- Ohio One Mild to rule them all and in the blandness bind them
As an ohioan there's 2 different spice levels. One for your average milquetoast Midwestern old white people and one for the rest of us who go out of their way to put hot sauce on literally everything
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I used to regularly go to an awesome ~~Vietnamese~~ Thai food cart in a big U.S. city. The first time I ordered drunken noodles, I made the mistake of saying yes when he asked if I wanted it spicy. It took me 45 minutes and a shitload of water to get through it. But the flavor under the spice was excellent, so I wanted to try it again.
The next time I went, I ordered it again but asked for "white guy spicy." The old dude laughed and made one of the best drunken noodle dishes I've ever had, with the perfect spice level for me.
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