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[–] 100 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Parkinson told me that her son—who competently walked the security guard back to their house after politely explaining that he wasn’t allowed to get into cars with strangers—had become distraught upon learning that he had apparently done something very bad.

There it is. This should have ended it. A short discussion between the security guard and the mother, with the mother explaining that her son was fine should have been the end of this, and the security guard could rest easy if he saw the kid outside again.

I'm Gen X and you already know our stories--gone from dawn to dusk in the summer with a stop in for lunch. Why have we done a complete 180 on this? Why are parents so afraid of fucking everything, it seems?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    And there weren't tracking devices in every pocket back then either.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    We made tracking easy. Why leave your kid out all day if they have a phone that you can call whenever to make sure they're safe? Why let them go out without knowing where they are if it's so convenient to just put a tracker on them and know where they are at all times?

    As soon as we didn't have to trust our kids anymore, we stopped, and as soon as we stopped, we no longer trusted them with anything. That's the issue with convenience - we'll do anything so long as its easy and sounds useful, and we won't bother wondering what the repercussions of that might be.

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    [+] 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    IMO we are what we incentivize and right now we’re incentivizing a low-trust society which “requires” a nanny state to remediate thanks to the anxiety ##% of the populace feels thanks to the constant fear mongering used to induce FOMO. Nowadays you can’t convince anyone you’re a normal, capable human being without proof. What that proof is differs from person to person of course.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago*

    From the age of 6 I rode my bike to school by myself. Mum had work responsibilities and we lived rurally so there was no bus. The ride into town was along a main highway, on the grass siding, then when I got into town I’d just use the footpaths. Other parents at my school would often offer to drive me home because they were so worried.

    That was in the 80s. Crazy to think back on, now.

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    [–] 50 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    The fact she was arrested is unbelievable.

    Admittedly, I wouldn't let my 5 year old have that much leeway, but I don't know her kid or the neighborhood and he seemed pretty capable based solely on the article. I'd probably wait until they are eligible for numbered grades. I was walking solo to elementary school and I made it out ok, so I guess kindergarten might not be much different. I think 7-8 is much more reasonable, but each kid is different.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    In a gated community, with private security patrolling. That's probably safer than just being in the backyard unsupervised next to the woods.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    That's fair, though I don't think the security was patrolling. I imagine it was just the gate guard or something, but like I said, it seems like it was something the kid could handle. My main issue is with the fact it was around a body of water where it's possible not a lot of other people were. Maybe he's an Olympic swimmer and would be fine, maybe he has the self restraint that all the Greek gods lacked, but all the sudden the wind carries a feather into the water and who knows from there. Again, I don't know the kid or the area. I don't think this was an appropriate response. I'm just saying for me personally, based on my experience with children in my life, I think 5 is a little young for that activity. I'd probably be fine with a longer walk to a friends house, to school, or to a park. I just don't love the idea of young kids unsupervised near water.

    The TV show Old Enough with Japanese kids running errands has kids 2-5, so I'm not saying it can't be done, I just personally wouldn't love the idea.

    Edited for clarity

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (26 children)

    Officials in the case decided to press charges against Parkinson, and last week she was convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and placed on Virginia’s child-abuse-and-neglect registry, where she will remain for seven years.

    I am all in favor of delinquency, but I don't understand what delinquent behavior she could possibly have contributed to in this case? Walking in public? Having an interest in waterfowl?

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    [–] 25 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Jesus who decides the age in which a kid can ride the subway or walk to a gated community pond by themselves?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Why do so many in the US feel entitled to make decisions for others?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Yet another sign of a diseased society. Whether the disease will be terminal remains to be seen.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Back in the day kids younger than this were mature enough to hold a job. Now they can't even walk by themselves.

    But seriously, times have changed and society has completely different idea of what acceptable risk for a child is than 30 years ago. They will also prosecute you for letting your kids do things that go beyond the limits they established. Not for actually letting your kid get harmed but just for risking it which will always be subjective. Everyone is scared now (even though crime is going down) and you have to be too or they will treat like you're crazy. For me it's just another reason not to have kids.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    When I was a kid I collected toads from a nearby pond and biked to elementary school by myself. I was fine and I know the kids in my area still do this and they're also fine. I don't think this mother did anything wrong.

    I kind of sound like an old fart complaining about kids not playing outside by themselves anymore saying this but I'm only gen z. Which is funny cause my 80 year old grandmother says stuff like that, but then also says that this mother should have been arrested.
    ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

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