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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 hours ago

We are, it's near ubiquitous. I'd suggest as high as 80% of us. Those folks will still use anything but the store anyway.

Being generous, most people are overwhelmed with choice .... in matters of no inportant (walk down the ceral aisle) , it's just with matters of importance they are given little choice.

That said I use Android becase I can sideload, some 50+60% of the apps I use regularly are sideloaded, stand out that aren't are banking and government. To have that taken off me would be shitty.

That said, I'm bemused at people that complain of a wall garden but also enable it to occur by being part of sipping at the kool aid.

My biggest gripe though is governemnt doing it, using Windows, MS Office etc etc and communicating using closed protocols. Maube like Demark and Germany we'll also move off that toxic shit.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 hours ago

EFF has been fighting the good fight for decades. I signed up for their newsletter in the 90s when I was a teen and still didn't understand enough about the world to be confident that I properly understood what they stood for, concerned that I might have picked the wrong side. I occasionally check their job listings. But they need lawyers and legal experts and I'm trying to run their IT infrastructure. At some point, if I check enough times, maybe they'll need the skills I have. I'd drop any job to work for them.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I am too stupid. This is true. Too stupid to buy an iPhone too.

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an Australian, do I have anything I can do to help make sure that these regulations are implemented?

Tell your rep(s) you're in favor of it, and if you have a time, visit in person.

[–] dan@upvote.au 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you pay for a device, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. Apple having so much control over it means that you don't fully own it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But… something something security and something something not a monopoly… am I doing this anti-consumer white knight thing right?

[–] lemsip@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No no no apple knows whats best because they made it. did you make a phone? no? didnt think so. checkmate.

(Pay no attention to the fact that it took apple 14 years to add t9 dialing, one of the simplest features a 'dumb' phone could have.)

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

I was always surprised by that (t9 dialing). Surely there was some legal reason for that. It felt so - primative.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 163 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As a general rule, if a corpo is against something the EU does, it means your government should do it too because it's a good thing.

[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 147 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Except breaking end-to-end encrypted messaging. That’s the one sore spot.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The EU like any large government is filled with people of varying quality. Some of them are absolutely amazing at their jobs and some of them can barely operate at light switches.

Normally whenever some dumb tech related regulation comes in you usually find it's being pushed by the idiots. You can usually tell by reading the text of the legislation and by the end of it you will have come up with about 300 problems.

A good example of this is reading the Tracking Cookies legislation (bad) and the GDPR legislation (good), the difference in the size of the text of the bill is visually apparent.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

some of them can barely operate at light switches

Here's a short story for this fact.

I have sold coffee machine on Monday. Next day got a message that it doesn't work. I ask what is up with it and she told me it won't start. I asked if she turned switch in the back in ON position? 1h later she writes me that it works!

I mean yeah, there is a switch in the back and a big ass ON button on the front. But I totally think that basic troubleshooting would solve this enigma before shooting the gun at me for selling a faulty device.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 16 hours ago

We used to have a poster up at work in the IT room that had a picture of a person scratching their heads and looking blankly at their laptop and the text "I've tried nothing, and I'm all out of ideas".

Some people have zero troubleshooting skills and don't even try. Their immediate reaction is to try and make it someone else's problem.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago

and also introducing hardware backdoors, courtesy of Going Dark

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but I still feel like the majority of people are stupid. That's kind of how apple got such a huge market share to begin with. People just happily locked themselves in to a closed garden with shit for options.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a way to send and receive SMS and send/receive phone calls through a computer? Like if I wanted to ditch a phone for a cyber deck could I? And just use like a mobile hotspot for Internet?

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

jmp.chat

I used this service breifly a while ago. Not enough to say whether it's good or not, but I remember it working just fine.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

This is dope. I live in Scotland, but I'm from Canada, and having a cheap local number for recieving texts from stuff like my bank would be super helpful.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I have 2 numbers with them, no regrets. So far the service has been flawless (except where I have spotty data services or crappy wifi). Absolutely worth it.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to hard agree with Apple that people are, in fact, too stupid to choose their own apps, but not following Apple's greedy logic.

Look at the top apps and sites people use. The tech billionaires. It's stupid as hell

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Same. I agree that people are too stupid to know what apps they should use. But that also includes those using some of apples closed down, limited apps and features haha

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple has always said this about their users. Too stupid to allow choices outside of a few curated options.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yeah, it's a messed up position. It's made more complicated by then being half right. People do often like having fewer choices. Making a streamlined OS that doesn't allow them access to the kernel or crucial components, that they literally can't break by accident, that is indeed an appealing feature to many. But it's not appealing because they're stupid, it's appealing they're rational.

This has always been Apple's method, make everything intuitive, easy to use for anyone and their mother. And a big part of that is removing all the extra clutter from the interface, all the options users would rarely if ever use. This is also the contentious part, removing the advanced options that power users might want access to.

But at least initially, they understood that the reason for doing all this, their goal, was to make their products better. These days it seems like they're less clear on that goal. The idea that they're "dumbing down" their products and controlling everything because their users are too stupid, this is a new attitude, and it shows a misunderstanding of the principals their company was built on. Apple was only successful because they made very good products which were comfortable to use. They certainly never won popularity through competitive pricing or having the most powerful machines...

Personally, I think it's a foolish move to be this controlling over their iOS ecosystem. This is really making the product inferior. Sideloading apps will not destroy their walled garden, it just gives power users the options they want. Apple should be afraid of losing more market share, they don't have all that much to lose...

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Apple to ~~Australians~~everyone: You’re Too Stupid to Choose Your Own Apps

fix'd

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Their reasons for not opening the App Store aren’t even good logical reasons like it would make the platform unsafe but then they claim the Mac is a safe platform. That’s what makes it so insulting.

I’d be less frustrated with them if they were just honest and said it’s about the money.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple "opinion" -> discarded.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

I choose the highway.

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As an Australian, my government can go for it. None of the tech companies have appreciated the Australian government's attempts to regulate them ~~(e.g. trying to make Google and Meta pay for using our journalism).~~ (edit: not a good example)

That said, we have had idiots in power from time to time that definitely have worked against us, usually arguing the "security over privacy" nonsense (metadata collection laws, encryption backdoor legislation, etc.).

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Have they looked at their own app store?

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