Researchers looked at pain around the world and across the human lifespan, finding steepest rise happens before age 55

Women report suffering more pain than men, a major new global study has found.

That was true for all types of pain the researchers measured, and comes amid continuing concern about the gender pain gap, which means women are less likely to be prescribed the pain relief they need.

Researchers from all over the world carried out “one of the largest harmonization efforts in pain epidemiology to date”. Data was collected from more than 6 million people from 118 countries from 1990 to 2025, and included people from five years old to more than 100.

The research, published in Nature Medicine, looked at how pain, as the leading global cause of disability, was distributed both around the world and across the human lifespan.

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[–] 28 points 3 days ago (13 children)

"It found women’s self-reported pain across 11 bodily sites – head, face, neck or shoulder, foot or ankle, hand or wrist, elbow, chest, back, stomach or abdomen, hip and knee – was higher than for men."

Self report, not really all that useful. Could be anything from "women experience more pain" to "women are encouraged to speak up about pain" to "women are less inured to pain". I'm afraid it's a bit clickbaity.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Self report, not really all that useful.

    Why not? Pain is a subjective experience. If someone experience high levels of pain consistently, that is reason to do something about it. Someone else may experience less pain for the same cause, but that doesn't invalidate other experiences. In the end it's about helping people and making their lifes better.

    Although for such studies it would be good indeed to factor in socialisation effects. If men are raised to suppress expressing pain when they're in pain, while women are not, that might bias the results.

    Do we have a non-invasive method for objectively measuring pain?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I don't see how you can do a study about pain without self reporting. No one can say how much pain another person is feeling. Thats why the hospital has that face ruler to get you to give them a number.

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  • [–] 40 points 4 days ago (50 children)

    How did they factor in the expected lower reporting from men due to the culture of "suck it up" or "grin and bear it" that seems to be more prevalent among men than women for physical/mental pain?

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  • [–] 23 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    Not that I entirely disagree with your point, but if we're going to talk about being put off of reporting, then how about centuries of women being dismissed by medical professionals?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I understand your counterpoint, however has that behavior led to more women not sharing their pain or being louder about their pain to get past the dismissiveness? Do both sexes just bottle it up?

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago (29 children)

    They didn't, though they do mention pain is complicated to study specifically because diagnosing it necessarily relies on self reporting. This unfortunately makes it virtually impossible to account for that fact. If someone tells you they have some level of pain, there is very little to nothing you can do to know if they are over exaggeratjng, under exaggerating or doing neither.

    A more accurate headline would be that women report higher levels of pain across the board, rather than they experience higher levels of pain.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago* (7 children)

    Or standardize the pain scale. A 9 on the scale for me is significantly more pain than a 9 for my wife because I have both a high pain tolerance and threshold. I say 9 because I've never experienced what I'd consider a 10 (pain so intense I lose consciousness).

    My vasectomy without anesthesia was a 9.5.

    But our response to pain is largely learned.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Bro why did you do it without anesthesia? Mine with local anesthesia was already a whole ordeal I couldn't imagine making it through with out the pain relief.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

    Because the surgeon didn't believe me when I told him I have the redhead gene and am extremely tolerant to all anesthesia. For reference, it took 8mg of Versed (standard is 1-2) before I even felt it before a down the throat echo of my heart, and my last filling required so much lidocaine that it paralyzed half of my face.

    He gave me a bunch of air shots, waited a few minutes, I wasn't numb, did it again for like 20 minutes and said, Well you have to be numb now, can you feel this," then made the incision. I told him I could feel that, but he just went right along.

    I was too busy diverting the pain to stop him at that point. But honestly, he was so fast that I likely would have been in pain for longer if I had stopped him and made him give me more anesthesia.

    But, I basically did a speed run of the pain, because my recovery was almost completely pain and swelling free.

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    [–] 16 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    I do think women's pain is under-treated, IUD insertion no pain meds, no anesthesia, a lot of GYN procedures that really hurt are done with no help.

    The worst pain I have ever felt, though, is still migraine. Not childbirth (I did those unmedicated) not broken bones, migraine is by far the most intense pain I have ever felt and that is not specific to women, though more common in women.

    My tattoo artist said men complain, women don't. Not that it hurts us less, we just don't complain. Cultural thing maybe. My husband does complain when his back hurts; I just wait it out. Though if it persisted I'd be more likely to go to the doctor than him.

    So maybe some of it is self-inflicted, we don't tell anyone we are hurting, but for God's sake, my gynecologist is a woman she should know that shit hurts!

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    On the other hand, I get migraines, but they're not even in the top three worst pain I've even experienced. The worst I've ever experienced is a mystery pelvic pain (yes, I'm also female).

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    Until I hit menopause I had no idea that the pain level of a migraine could vary, I have them occasionally still (not many with the steady low dose MHT and no cycles), and mostly they are about like a hangover level of headache.

    Before menopause, they were uniformly at an 11/10, vomiting, crying and such intense pain I got hallucinations. Like I have no idea how one can hurt that bad without it killing you. In labor, I literally thought "well, not as bad as a migraine anyway".

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    [–] 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    The more I learn about how periods and pregnancy can fuck up the body the more and more I'm certain women, in general, experience more pain than men on a regular basis.

    The device that simulates period pain is something I feel all doctors should go through. If you know what that pain is like then I imagine you would listen more to your patients.

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    Completely delusional to think they wouldnt. Women literally have built in monthly pain generator for the majority of their lives.

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