cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/politics@lemmy.world/p/2474069/ice-is-reportedly-using-a-palantir-database-to-compile-dossiers-on-protestors-engadget

An attorney representing protestors said this infringes on First Amendment rights.

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[–] 1 point 1 hour ago

Fascists love that kind of stuff. They always do lists of the people they would like to kill.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    These bad trees keep bearing bad fruit, makes sense, they always bear poison.

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  • [–] 26 points 21 hours ago (13 children)

    I've always assumed they were profiling protesters. I go to to protests head-to-toe in full costume because of it.

    They can try to profile me, but they're just going to get a costume that millions of people own.

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  • [+] -24 points 13 hours ago (12 children)

    Also going to protests is kind of silly because they don’t do anything. No use getting on some government hit list for holding some sign making fun of Trump or ice.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (5 children)

    At this point I feel people are galvanized already to their beliefs. You have those for this, and those against this, there's little to no room for those calling for both sides to come to an agreement.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago*

    Let us not base policy choices on feels, be open to learning proven ways, and use Sagan's baloney detection kit to understand what really helps people do better. People get indoctrinated and brainwashed into unhealthy ideas, tribalism, and use excuse that they don't want to risk their benefits of belonging by questioning them or their feels. They can choose to leave unhealthy ways and meet better people. Maybe thinking is too hard and they don't have time, due to artificial scarcity of these bad policies, or numb with mindless algorithms, so they do what their crowd does, what the media brainwashes them to fear. Critical thinking and doing the right things, actual courage is too hard.

    The US has regressed in healthcare and other quality of life, due to the swings back to maga, and people unaware how long it takes to rebuild the destruction they cause each time. Dems rarely have enough majority with the lopsided system, and too many voters don't understand all this and choose to flip back due to feels, and the world is worse off for it... again.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

    Right: I want to kill trans people

    Left: I want me and friends to be left alone

    You: can’t we come to some sort of compromise?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Left: I want my trans daughter to dunk on your bio daughter.

    At least be honest. And I am on the left but don’t act like the case is literally just let us live our lives vs trans extinction.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 minutes ago

    The issue with this argument is HRT in trans women after 2 years reduces muscle and bone density down to the levels within the average ranges of cis women... Removing the "biological advantage". This is widely studied and recognised in science, and it's not even new science...

    It's the constant intake of the higher testosterone levels that causes the increased baseline strength which lowers as the hormone does. HRT for Trans Women includes both Androgen blockers (blocks testosterone) and estrogen to fill its place. Hence "hormone replacement therapy"

    I'd say it's less "being honest" and more than most people are ignorant (accidentally or maliciously) to just how much HRT affects the body and how it affects the body... Just like how trans men significantly gain baseline strength over 1-2 years into HRT

    Which is exactly why sports organisations like the Olympics (before Trump pressured them to drop trans people) required a set amount of time of HRT medical history and blood tests to check hormone levels are in average cis women ranges to allow trans people to take part.

    But if you believe the people on the right demanding the erasure of trans people, you'd assume it's just "men with the biological advantages dunking on women" while ignoring all effects the body undergoes. Which then allows the constant attacking of trans people for simply existing (even though majority trans people aren't even trying to get into professional sports... But that doesn't make for a "good" news story or political point scoring when fighting to demonise trans people...)

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  • [–] 22 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    Protests don't do anything... which is also why they are completely forbidden in Russia and you'll get arrested for one person protests with blank signs. Coming soon to the US as well.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 hours ago* (2 children)

    Generally, that's true.

    But there's one example where protests have made a ton of change recently: Flock has lost 400 contracts since June. But that's because the protests have morphed into people actually going to city council meetings.

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  • [–] 13 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Well, if anyone had wanted to change the laws, they had 70 years to do it. COINTELPRO started in 1956 and nobody has put any kind of brakes on surveillance or even torture.

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  • [–] 5 points 21 hours ago

    Of course they are. Who doubted they would?

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago (3 children)

    People are still protesting?

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  • [–] 17 points 20 hours ago*

    They are.

    And in fact, people just doing good old fashioned protesting and testifying are accomplishing great things, like getting almost 400 Flock contracts killed since June. I made a video about it.

    You might imagine that billionaires aren't much inclined to report on such things, and they own all of the major news outlets.

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