There's a hobby project I've been working on for over a year, but now I'm not sure I'm even going to bother to release it because everyone will just assume I vibe coded it in a weekend.

This is a pretty stupid project because only office already exists as a very competent msoffice clone.

It feels disengenuous to say people vibe code things.

I know it's correct English, I just think it's kind of a bullshit statement.

When dumbasses talk to AI's and the AI's do things for them, it's wild to think the credit goes to the dumbasses.

This is like your boss saying he did all your dev work and calling it "boss coding".

"... an AI slop version of Microsoft Office that doesn't fucking work" also known as Microsoft Office 365

The only reason Microsoft exists today is because of Exchange and an old market share on consumer/prosumer OS.

They're a glorified email hosting company and an embarrassment to software development. Idc what AI does to their shitty software. Fucking hate Outlook.

Long live Libre devs!! Been with yall for over a decade

a couple of months ago i asked about this one of local Forbes editors and they explained this phenomenon as "because it is expected to code by hand but managing to vibe anything is amazing". i decided not to continue this conversation because that's fucking stupid

Tinfoil hat time:

A year ago, I did some reverse engineering. I figured a pattern matching engine has to be good matching patterns, so I threw the messed-up output of Ghidra into Claude to clean it up and to give me an overview of what the fuck happens in a certain part.

I was absolutely surprised. Sure, it got some things wrong, but it knew way more than it should have been able to guess from that short bit of fucked up, optimised not-quite-C. Including guessing context that it should not be able to guess. This was a firmware with not-yet-released functions that, to my knowledge, shouldn't exist outside of this bit of binary firmware. At least not for us non-NDA mortals.

At the time, Mistral had a new-ish model as well, so I figured I'd give it a try. It worked as expected, cleaned up things, gave variables reasonable names, made educated guesses and so on, but didn't act as if it had background info. And I was using Sonnet 4.x, so the small Claude which shouldn't be that much larger.

Since then, I have the conspiracy theory that the Claude people threw a bunch of proprietary sources in the training, too. I have no idea how, maybe aggressively training on user inputs? Anyway, this does not help to allalleviate my suspicions.

that doesn't work

You see, they took the efforts to replicate Microsoft excel experience.

I disagree, their efforts don't go unnoticed. Their recent no-AI claims prompted me to donate.

I don't like LibreOffice but any actual Open Source dev deserves infinite more respect than those prompstitutes.

Which is entirely tragic, because LibreOffice is good, I respect hand coding more than the products of a prompt slot machine.

For anyone not already aware, there was a push in the early 2000s to require government documents to be in a standard format rather than giving a specific vendor (Microsoft) unfair advantage (official government endorsement). LibreOffice (OpenOffice at the time) used the standardized ODF format, which should've pushed many European governments to switch to an open source office suite. Instead, Microsoft bribed a bunch of people to push through their "OOXML" format as a standard, even though it was just a snapshot of Office's behavior, bugs and all.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100805232754/http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070827111019189

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_standardization

To be fair, neither does the real MS office

LibreOffice - the only office suite that handles tables correct, even when multiple users change the document 🥳