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[–] 1 point 1 hour ago

Ai is bad is such an intellectually lazy take. Anyone who understands Data Science and Calculus well enough to understand how LLM's work are going to be able to get better results than everyone else. Everyone else, well, they are grasping at straws and inventing fictions....Seriously go study data science and experience statistics before you make claims that don't hold up to scrutiny.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    I don't understand what's he talking about. I was forced to use AI by my employer and instantly lost all the joy in programming.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Have it do the tedious work

    Have it create a better testing environment

    Have it do bunch of edge case things or automate ui testing.

    Use it as a tool. You can still be the brains.

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  • [–] 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    I'm doing all that, but it's not the same. I'm no longer writing code and it was my favorite part of the job. I guess I was lucky to have a job I enjoyed, now I join the 87% of people who hate their job.

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  • [–] -1 points 22 hours ago

    What happens if you write the code and your LLM agents write the unit tests, maintain the CI scripts, keep the requirements and specifications and comments in sync with what the code actually does, reviews your code and points out potential problems?

    LLMs are actually the best "employees" I've ever had, they don't get their feelings hurt, they usually do what they're told after a few reinforcement instructions. They're forgetful, but willingly write and refer to comprehensive notes.

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago

    The thing to realize is: you have always been the brains. It's just a tool. If you try to let it be the brains, you'll just get the miserable end of the deal and it will be doing an inadequate job as "the brains," making your end of the relationship even more miserable.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Torvalds is doing an illicit substitution of Claude, Gemini, Copilot et al. for the vague term AI, which also includes local models, open-weight models and things that aren't LLM (machine translations, for example), thus ignoring the ethical issues associated with the operation of commercial AI/LLM services.

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

    Most tokens sold come from China today and open weight models, and most (EDIT) 42% of energy produced in China is from clean sources like nuclear or renewables. Don't blame AI for ethics or lack thereof in neoliberal capitalism and a lack of planning or regulations. China also has the most and smartest regulations on AI so far.

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  • [–] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    Does Linux Torvalds use those Chinese and open weight models? Iirc he was using Claude

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  • [–] 0 points 14 hours ago

    The point is that fuckai aims to outright villanize people who use AI, although in a proper democratic society we would have massively invested in nuclear and renewables.

    The principles would be "If a material good or service can be produced ethically but is only not produced ethically due to profit maximizing which the individual has no power over, then the individual is not ethically responsible for using or boycotting it".

    Or said simpler, the whole fuckai demagoguery is misdirecting anger that should go towards capitalism and especially neoliberal capitalism against people just trying to exist in the fucking system.

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  • [–] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    • Specific Sources (Recent 12-month baseline via Low Carbon Power): • Coal: ~54% of electricity consumption • Hydropower: ~14% • Solar: ~12% (split evenly between utility-scale and behind-the-meter) • Wind: ~11% • Natural Gas: ~3% • Nuclear: ~4% • Biofuels / Biomass: ~2%

    That would be China today.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 hours ago

    Thanks for correcting. But overall the trend rapidly goes upwards year by year for china.

    The more general argument would be that you can't blame an individual for systemic ills, which has been done to death for climate change and tried to turn it into personal responsibility. We do not live in true democracies but capitalist societies. And we can't be expected to "opt out of the system". If something could be implemented in a way that is ethical but isn't because the ruling plutocrats make more profit that way, this is not the individuals fault. This demonization of people for using AI is unethical and a strategic blunder in a fight for liberation and ultimately only serves to shield specifically neoliberal capitalism from critique.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago

    a great way to find joy in programming

    I already had that, thanks Linus. Did you not?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Suddenly Lemmy is going to explain to me why AI is the best thing ever.

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  • [–] -1 points 22 hours ago

    It's a thing, good for some things, not so great for others.

    It's a new thing, people are just starting to figure out what it's really good for. It's also improving rather dramatically over the past year, hard to say if that's the start of an exponential curve, or if we're hitting an s-curve rolloff already...

    If it continues to grow its energy / environmental impact at the current growth rate, that's a bad thing, but it's not "in a bad place" yet... if you're outraged about the last 2 years of AI environmental impact, you should have already been apopleptic over the past 15 years of Bitcoin's environmental impacts.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    That's how I felt when I found MDMA, and it allowed me to find joy in parties and being around people. If used responsibly, of course.

    I'm getting exactly the same feeling with AI now. It is instant dopamine fun, but I can see it being addicting in exactly the same way. Of course I tell myself I'll use it responsibly, for work, and keep my skills sharp by making sure to do some of my own projects, and be responsible in properly reviewing and checking my code.

    Just as I told myself that I'll keep a healthy pause of two months between mdma use, and have a rogorous vitamine and supplements plans based on the most recommended harm reduction research.

    Sure, I did manage to do that for the first half a year or so, you can guess how it is now.

    It's pretty unsettling how exactly the same it feels, the way you slowly start giving up on things you've sworn to do, and how you slowly start to be unable to do/enjoy the thing (be it parties or coding) without it.

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    Hey, I'd only be killing people objectively bad for humanity. Trump and his allies, Putin, my ex-wife, Saudi Arabia's crown Prince, Netanyahu, that guy who cut me off in traffic last month, Rupert Murdoch, the Ellison family...

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago

    y'know this actually made me think of a good plot for a short spinoff:

    Hardcore christian person finds the death note, spends some time researching who the most evil people are, then follows a year of writing one name every day after which they go through a ritual and prayers and then repeat the next day, and at the end they finish by writing their own name because they know humans can't be trusted with that power and consider themselves to have simply been the hand of god and now it's time to face His judgement.

    Basically just literally Silas (the white haired dude) in the Da Vinci Code.

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  • [–] 95 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    And then yesterday he said something along the lines of "we need to make it harder to contribute to the Linux kernel." Which I believe he means to say "oh god there's so much being submitted all of a sudden and it's all slop."

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    So what happens when AI can recode on demand... Rather than programming a game, a gaming AI just generates the game as you play it.

    Rather than writing a program, it just codes and runs the code at the same time... so that what you need is there when you request it to be.

    Code chunks being put together and pulled apart as required. What then?

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago

    i mean they've already shown that you can just straight up have an image model generate the game in real-time without even writing code

    the future is the reverse matrix: all-but-sapient computers forced to dream our games
    I miss when computers were fancy rocks we tricked into doing maths..

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  • [–] 0 points 22 hours ago

    Rather than writing a program, it just codes and runs the code at the same time

    Yeah, so there's been a lot of improvement very quickly over the last year in LLM agent's coding abilities.

    If they continue to improve at an exponential improvement rate like they have been... maybe 5-10 years from now you might see such a "code and run" as you make the descriptions LLM performance, for simpler things.

    I'm curious, with "unlimited access" to the inference engine hardware capabilities, just how much faster the LLM agents can run when they're not in timeshare over the internet mode?

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  • [–] 46 points 2 days ago (24 children)

    Ah, yes, "when used responsibly." Like how we use drugs, alcohol, guns, cars, money, power, and everything else responsibly? Humans can't be trusted with things that do more harm than good when used irresponsibly.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Some humans cannot own knives responsibility. It doesn't mean I have to cut the pineapple with a spoon.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Correct - knives do more good than harm, even when some people use them irresponsibly. My point is that AI doesn't; even when some people could arguably say that they use it responsibly and do good work, those that use it for slop, to perpetuate disinformation, and to further degrade our ability to think critically outweigh those people.

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