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I know it's not that hard $ dpkg -i but opening the terminal gives normies an aneurysm and thanks to the crazy gatekeeping gen alpha doesn't know what a file type is now.

I use Ubuntu btw. Personally, the App store's on Linux confused me a ton, setting up Flatpak and some other package repositories. I much preferred the windows way, shocker, with just downloading and double-click the exe file.

Do I have to make a pull request myself to get this done, or what is the debate on this?

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[–] Milesq@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

Just use nautilus-action

[–] JamonBear@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago

FWIW instead of dpkg -i stuff.deb, you can use apt as such: apt install ./stuff.deb (The path syntax like ./ is required to use a local file instead of searching for a package name).

Unlike dpkg, apt is able to fetch dependencies if needed.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

the monkey's paw curls a finger and your wish is granted

you can now right click and select install. But it doesn't actually install properly.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It doesn't check dependencies.

You have 356 different copies of libcurl installed on your system.

Nginx, Apache and Lighttpd are all running in the background and collectively using the same port, somehow.

Wayland and X are both running with multiple sessions but none of them are on the default TTY.

[–] RommieDroid@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

dpkg doesn't? I sometimes use apt install command but didn't think it mattered if the deb package was configured right.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago

It's an embellishment on the above monkey's paw comment, not actual technical information.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago

Strange when I double click a .deb and or a .flatpakref file the gnome software application opens with the option to install that package. (Linux mint)

[–] erytau@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gnome-Software and GDebi can do exactly that for you. Download a deb, right click "open with X", and they'll install it for you using GUI. You can even change file associations so debs are opened by gdebi/gnome-software by simple double-clicking.

[–] bryceac@mastodon.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@RommieDroid It’s not there by default, but Gdebi can do the trick. I used it quite a lot when I first started with Linux.

[–] RommieDroid@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's awesome. Thank you.

[–] bryceac@mastodon.world 6 points 1 week ago

@RommieDroid No problem. Many of us are here to help in the #linux community, though I wouldn’t say I’m the most advanced with it.

[–] JamonBear@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I much preferred the windows way, shocker, with just downloading and double-click the exe file.

This is appimage!

[–] RommieDroid@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

Om, AppImage is portable exe. Has it's uses.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I really don't understand why it's not more streamlined, it should work like an exe where I just click it and it installs and handles dependencies automatically.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Installing a random .deb comes with enormous security implications. I am not sure that making the process more beginner friendly is a really good idea.

"Beginner friendly" should be limited to things from the main repositories, and for that there is the Software Center.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

What linux does and does not protect the user from is endlessly hilarious to me.

Hey linux, I want to install a file you downloaded.

Linux: Sounds risky man

I'd like my file explorer to have super user privleges.

Linux: Are you out of your god damned mind?

Hey linux, I want to delete the kernel that I'm actively using right now.

Linux: Hell yeah. I'll go to the looney bin with you.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not any more dangerous than installing a random exe. And a GUI that opens when you click one could explain that danger much better than what currently happens: people blindly use sudo dpkg and that's it.

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[–] bryceac@mastodon.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@MangoPenguin @RommieDroid It’s more so that the people working on “beginner friendly” Linux distros are pushing users towards Software Centers/App stores these days.

Those of us who are familiar with the old ways don’t really have much trouble, but there’s stuff that is a big pain, like #LibreOffice

Installing the latest version of that is easier to do in the terminal and can’t be done as conveniently as what you propose, though I wish it was that easy.

[–] demerara@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

@bryceac @MangoPenguin @RommieDroid LibreOffice is certainly an exception. One deb, no problem, but a whole screen full of them? And just running dpkg -i may get you two instances depending on the update? I finally went for flatpak on this one.

[–] bryceac@mastodon.world 1 points 1 week ago

@demerara @MangoPenguin @RommieDroid I just try to find the current way to uninstall the preloaded version and then run dpkg -i *.deb in the extracted directory for the latest, but I can kind of see how that can be possible.

[–] RommieDroid@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about those beginner-friendly distros, they seem a little doggy and miss out on the massive work that the Debian and Ubuntu teams do that a smaller team can not. Snap is good for small, one time use or untrusted apps. But most of the time, its performance is really slow. It needs some work.

[–] bryceac@mastodon.world 5 points 1 week ago

@RommieDroid Most of them are based on Ubuntu, such as Mint and the stagnated Pop! OS.

I can’t say what they are all like, but Ubuntu and its family are all the ones adopting a software center/App store these days.

In the past, I remember using Synaptic for searching for software, which was just a GUI front end for APT.

I’ve been using Nala lately in my VMs though.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

This is deliberately not allowed in order to ensure that Linux remains exclusive for nerds.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

I use Mint and I just double-click *.deb files to install them. Ubuntu does not do this?

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is this really a common occurrence for you, that the package isn't available via apt?

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

On Debian it is. The stable branch is a pain. I need to switch to something else.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, understandable.

May I talk to you about our lord and savio, NixOS? (Only kinda /s)

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Nice!

How much do you know of nix? (Just gauging where I should start in my propaganda script :D)

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[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it's only due to the branch, i.e. a package or desired version isn't available in stable but is in testing or unstable, you may try using pinning.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Reading, thank you.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Most end-user software is not in Debian/Ubuntu repos. Sublime Text, Discord, Anydesk, Google Earth, Ente Photos, Synergy, Steam, NordVPN... The list goes on. You download a Deb from their website.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When I was on popos I would just double click deb files and eddy would open and install

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"popos" is german for "butts", PopOS! is a bit different

[–] xylol@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

Eddy doesn't care which, he's installing

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

Just add your own context menu shortcut for .deb files that runs sudo deb -i $_

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not quite what you want, but in dolphin you can open a terminal with F4, and then just type sudo deb -i <package.deb> and your password. Pretty quick.

[–] RommieDroid@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

It's a useful shortcut.

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[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, for real? Gen Alpha doesn't know what a file type is??

[–] RommieDroid@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

fr, windows hides the file type by default.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Windows has done this since I was a kid (I'm a millennial). Later gens have no excuse.

[–] jasory@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

If you have Nautilus as the filemanager, you can write a Nautilus script that does this for you, you just then have to right click and select the script. You can run essentially any script this way, I use it for some preset file conversions.

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