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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

3rd party voters: "I'm not voting for Harris until she condemns the Gaza war!"

Harris: *says she condemns the Gaza war*

3rd party voters: *desperate scrambling sounds to find something else to be a single issue contrarian*


I'm really hoping I'm wrong about that, but I'm seeing it on this thread.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They do not want to condemn the war.

The want to end the genocide.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

there goes the goalposts

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's completely in her power to stop whitewashing a genocide and creating false equivalences by calling it a "war".

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Not until after the election. She's walking a wire trying to get nonMAGA republicans to vote for her in order to save Democracy. They need to at least pretend to believe she won't completely abandon Israel. If she can beat Trump, she'll then be free to call a genocide a genocide. In any case, Trump wants to end the war by letting his buddy Bibi nuke Gaza and just fucking kill all the Palestinians. A "final solution" as it were.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Not if she wants to get elected. I've said since the convention that they're trying their best to not piss off either side and that's mostly been their strategy. Even when she's releasing statements on the death of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders she's very careful to say, as an American leader, I'm glad this dude, who killed Americans, is dead.

Of course that was evidence of her being a flaming Zionist to people who want Trump elected.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Apparently no one in the comments has been paying attention. She's been saying these same lines about Gaza since the convention speech.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's been a lot of FUD about it and .ml has been running wild denying anything even remotely pro peace from her.

At any rate literally all we need at this point is a president that tells Netanyahu he either accepts a negotiated return of remaining hostages and withdraws or he loses our weapons support.

But Biden is also doing his best to pump up their ammo supply so the next president actually doesn't have the influence Biden could have had. It's 2024 and I'm ashamed we didn't learn from supporting South Africa and Iran into the flames. They've been shamelessly giving Israel our best military technology with no regard to their political situation. College students called this as the most likely path 2 decades ago, and here we are appearing to be caught by surprise.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Fun fact, there's a 2008 law that specifically forces the president to give Israel all the best military hardware.

It was passed by W on his way out the door, and due to the Democratic party being compromised as hell, there's never been enough votes to get rid of it, and any time the president might want to hold things back, they get sued under that law.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bibi hates her, so that’s a good start.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago

Considering that him and Trump talk all the time, I would say he isn't excited for Harris. He knows when the war is over, he is fucked. Remember, he tried to remove their supreme court before the war.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago

It is not useful for Harris to call the genocide a genocide because it would hurt her chances of being elected. If Trump is elected instead of Harris, the genocide will continue until all Palestinians are dead.

Since we want the genocide to end before all Palestinians are dead it is not useful to demand that Harris calls the genocide a genocide because that hurts the chances of the genocide ending while Palestinians are still alive.