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[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 2 points 15 hours ago

Wow they really got baited there haha.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

I choose to believe these are rage-bait and false flags. Otherwise, multiple someones managed to learn a language with so little introspection and contextual understanding that I'd have to downgrade them to an LLM.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"well, if the shoe fits"

well, if the shoe fits

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago

Well, the shoe fits.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Global antisemitism on the rise". Is that because Israel turned genocidal against the Palestinians?

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If I was a non Israeli Jew, I would be PISSED at Israel for that exact reason.

I won't say the same of Israelis, because looking at the percentages who are pro leave no Palestinians alive, they seem too much like a blood lusted cult to care about the opinions of.

And yes I know the Palestinians feel the same way, but the party with the bigger stick matters and always shoulders the burden of wielding that stick responsibly, and Israel has no interest in that.

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago

As a non-Israeli Jew I will confirm, I am very very very fucking pissed not just because they have made the world less safe for me but because this poison of national narcissism has used our trauma as a tool of evil. I can't participate or be near my own culture anymore which was once a deep comfort for me who's last memories of many of my late loved ones being our shared religious ceremonies. The name of Israel on my lips in prayer now sours the kiddush wine.

[–] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More specifically it's because Israel and its allies are running a successful global campaign of conflating opposition to its genocide with antisemitism, which, in turn, normalises antisemitism, which, obviously, harms Jewish people everywhere.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

I still agree with the “Jews against Zionism” crowd who take great offense to the idea that anti-genocide is the same as antisemitism. Because that seems to insinuate that genocide is linked to Judaism, which in itself is a pretty antisemitic idea.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I actually want to watch Superman now, and I will 100% assume this genocidal US ally is a stand-in for Israel and appreciate it all the more for it, because the shoe certainly fits.

[–] Metype@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago

I didn't catch on to the allegories in the film until after I finished watching it. I can, however, attest that it really is a great film. It's funny when it wants to be, tells a story I found interesting, and really feels like a comic book in some of the best ways.

[–] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck Superman. The US just as complicit and don't tell me this movie is some rebellious act. This is a major corporation co-opting a message to move units.

(No offense, just tired of all the marketing that's getting passed around)

[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting, this post made me laugh!

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My parents watch PBS Newshour and are very anti-Israel because of what they're doing to Palestine. One night, PBS ran a piece about how Israel's PR was labeling any criticism of Israel's action as "anti-semitism" and my folks were naturally incensed by this. The very next night, PBS ran a piece about the statistically increasing occurrence of anti-semitism in the world - without any discussion of just the possibility that much of that increase is due to criticisms of Israel being labeled as anti-semitism. My parents, of course, were then incensed about all the anti-semitism.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Israel has spent like 4+ decades trying desperately to associate criticism of israel with antisemitism. And the world has complied, Hell its now a crime punishable by decades in prison just to support Palestine in the UK. Gotta wonder how Churchill hasnt lept out of his grave and started cockslapping motherfuckers.

Netanyahu also used to have a penchant for comparing people who refused to gargle his fucking balls to Hitler, in a blatant attempt to shame people into Israeli compliance. Hasnt done it so much anymore, Probably because descriptions of Hitler and his actions would rub too uncomfortably close to what Netanyahu and Israel are doing now a days.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

times are shitty indeed.

I wonder how actual nazis see this kind of shit: do they feel validated and think "haha they were always criminals" or are they pissed because (so far at least) israel can bomb kids and camps and hospitals and schools and food lines over and over and over again, angry that nazis faced consequences for their crimes, eventually?

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 points 1 day ago

It only hurt jews those false accusations

[–] grissino@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Pretty soon even Schindler's List will be "anti-Semitic" for these people...

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (8 children)

"they're showing a country of mostly white people invading and brutalizing a defenseless country of brown people which is clearly about Israel-palestine"

c/selfawarewolves

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

why the fuck would I ever listen or subscribe to a subreddit know as r/israel

fuck net-nannny-yahoo

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The "if you're criticizing Israel then you are an antisemitic" argument is getting really really old and fucking tired.

I have never in my life had any issues with anyone who is Jewish just because they are Jewish. Nor will I ever. But I have serious issues with the state of Israel committing war crimes on a daily basis and expecting not to be held accountable.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 34 points 2 days ago

100%, fuck the country of Israel, the people leading the country, and the people hands on murdering civilians. Death to the IDF.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My Jewish friends never bought into it either.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're mad that they're identifying with the genocidal, colonizing villains of the story?

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 19 points 2 days ago

I keep expecting Jeff Bezos to get angry at the portrayal of Lex Luthor to top it off.

[–] GoddessGundy@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

"If the shoe fits"... So maybe sit with your thoughts a bit longer to a logical conclusion instead of jumping to social media to dump your little thought vomit.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 277 points 2 days ago (2 children)

attacking a defenseless neighboring people

They’re so close to figuring it out

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago

They know. They like committing genocide. They just don’t want international consequences for it.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago

This complaint is such an admission. They can't point to a single similarly between Israel and the bad guys in the movie except, "nation with technology advanced weaponry being deployed against unarmed civilians," and they're not even disputing that that's an accurate depiction of what's happening. It's not like they're saying, "this movie parallels Hamas propaganda." They're saying, "depicting colonial genocide negatively is anti-Israel."

[–] bitMasque@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Well, if the shoe fits.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 222 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 days ago (30 children)

Andor is just one such example of this.

This shit is why I joke that every work of fiction needs to end with the protagonist staring directly at the camera and explaining what the audience is supposed to take away from it, 1950's style, because people are too stupid for subtlety. Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide "G[horman Pl]aza," and have a character specifically emphasize the word "genocide" in a Senate chamber, but StrikeEagle784 sees all that and goes, "Wow, cool lasers" without understanding anything about anything.

Now, imagine if Andor ended with Cassian taking a seat and saying, "Hi, I'm Cassian Andor, and I hope you enjoyed the show. Were you moved by the plight of the Ghormans and inspired to fight the Empire? Well, just like how the Empire conducted a genocide against Ghorman, in real life, the US and Israel are committing genocide against the people of Gaza. That's actually the reason why that's in the show. Early on, I tried to turn a blind eye to injustice, but I found that ignoring the problem didn't make it go away. This is also true in real life. In summary, the genocide in Gaza is bad and you should do something about it."

Would that be stupid and annoying? Yes. But this is the level of art that we deserve. At least, it's the level of art that StrikeEagle784 deserves.

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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 89 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes it is totally Hollywood making Israel look bad, not the shooting caged brown people part.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

if anti-israel statement counts as anti semtism, then look at whats happening in Palestine.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 137 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (37 children)

Someone have context if we haven’t seen the new superman?

Also I want to scream a million times. Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.

Mixing that up is intentional, so that you can be accused of being antisemitic by not supporting Israel. Politicians love to do this.

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[–] thelivefive@startrek.website 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh I guess I'm going to see the new Superman now.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 days ago

"we're seeing similarities between us and fictional villains and we don't like it"

[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s not our fault your state became so evil they are interchangeable with cartoon villains.

All this whining about that movie makes me want to see it more and more. If this is intentional, it will be remembered as the best marketing campaign in history.

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[–] Tooden@aus.social 10 points 1 day ago

@IndustryStandard That shoe fits like it was made for him/them, by a cobbler of old. Interesting that he recognised the parallel so quickly.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 58 points 2 days ago

If you see yourself in the bad guys actions, maybe do something else...

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wait, I thought the Jews ran Hollywood and controlled all of the media? How is it possible a movie like this exists?

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