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Just a reminder that votes should be considered public, because anyone can gain access to them by either setting up their own lemmy server or moving to another federated service that displays them upfront (kbin/mbin)
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-docs/blob/main/src/users/03-votes-and-ranking.md#vote-privacy
Or just use Lemvotes.
The one brave downvoter for this post, lol. It better not be the widders from Seattle, I'll be pissed.
Ain’t gots no shins!
Thank you, I had been wondering who downvoted a long string of my comments a couple days ago
I still have no idea why, but it's funny that I can just go look at their profile. It's tempting to just downvote a bunch of their similarly innocuous comments but that seems dumb lol.
On PieFed the vote buttons are disabled when viewing someone's profile.
That's pretty cool, I didn't know that!
Be the bigger person and start upvoting their shit.
I upvote all your posts, like a tic or something.
I’m flattered but also concerned.
SatansMaggotyCumFart says
I’m flattered but also concerned.
QED
I literally can’t tell if you’re calling me an asshole or are hitting on me.
Lol, that's what I'll do! Hell yeah!
Fuck all those cute boys gonna know I swoon for them thx for doxxing me you've ruined my life
That's one of the things that I don't like about Lemmy. But unless there's better service that's not centralized I guess I will remain here for at least some time.
I think PieFed has something to "fix" this. IIRC, they have a second account just for voting. You use your main account, but the random second account is used for voting
Never assume anything you do on servers you don't own are private. In fact don't even do it then, encrypt that shit.
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Dang it I got rickrolled again?!
I thought you need a public key to read it or some sht, idr how pgp works
You do. That comment of mine, as is, is entirely worthless.
The sender (in this case, that would be me) needs to encrypt the message using either:
That way, the only people who can decrypt the message is a person with the private key that is paired with any of the public keys that the message was encrypted with OR literally anybody that happens to have the passphrase it was encrypted with.
I think I had encrypted that message using just my own public key, so as I said, the message is completely useless to anybody but myself.
Tying votes to accounts is pretty much required by the way activity-pub works; an upvote is basically the same as a heart/like on old Twitter and with federation it needs to know where the vote is coming from and where it’s going.
Piefed has an option to try to circumvent this by creating a second, “fake” account with no obvious connection to your own account and sends all your votes using that account. If the instance doesn’t have many accounts, though, it can still be obvious who’s voting.
As others have mentioned, other front ends or services can show the votes publicly to anyone who wants to see it. Even on other platforms that use a voting system one should always assume the votes are tied to one’s account.
Piefed stopped that actually and now instead have an option to not have your votes federate to other instance entirely.
How does the algorithm work then for hot and top?
The same. But a vote that does not federate will only have an impact on the instance where it was cast.
I'm not sure. Here's the post where it went live, with links to the lead up at the bottom. I guess just ask @rimu@piefed.social
Oh, I’d missed that update!
What if you voted but then un-voted? Is that visible?
Users can do this too via the website lemvotes.org.
It's also a feature of Tesseract (but isn't as easy to use).
And tesseract is discontinued :(
Literally everyone can see how anyone votes. Others have mentioned lemvotes already.
To be fair, I have a small handful of troll accounts that I tag and downvote whenever I see them posting. Sometimes they go on a posting tangent and I end up with a string of downvoting which looks bad without context
Now that lemmy has grown I've gotten a lot more liberal with the block function. Fact that it's right next to the reply button is nifty.
Voting is kind of lame IMO. I wish it would die with Reddit. Large or small votes, my feed always seems to still be what it is, and I don't filter by votes or anything like that. Don't pay it much attention other than to maybe acknowledge the person above me.
Actually if my local community subreddit taught me anything, I've often got more in common with the downvoted folks.
A bot that reveals that behaviour to the community would be very helpful.
lemvotes.org
there are absolutely folks on this platform who do not engage in communities at all except to downvote people. I emailed the sopuli admin about an account with no comments, no posts, and thousands of downvotes and they didn't respond. i noticed the account because every time i post in an lgbt sub they downvote me no matter what the subject is.
I'm moving over to piefed as soon as the voyager support is a little more robust.
oh also the guy in the sandwich posting comm who downvotes all the other posts when he posts something is a riot. he'll downvote your post and then comment in it like he's supporting it. people are shits when they think they can get away with it.
it's better to just ignore the downvotes but 🤷🏼♀️ i get curious
On PieFed instances the votes of serial downvoters are automatically discarded.
hey it's Rimu Piefed themself!
It's weird people constantly say mods have magic powers...
And I almost never see lemvotes mentioned.
Admins have a much easier time, that's why all the communities that ban people for down voting are moderated by admins of tiny instances.
Im pretty sure if they're not an admin of an instance (there's a lot of small ones out there) the mods are just using lemvotes.
Hell, your comment should be a TIL all by itself. Maybe people will stop removed about their posts getting a single downvote when they can see it's just a few trolls.
That is gold. Thanks for the site.
Lmao, the sandwich guy is so funny to me
That would be helpful. The only problem is, I've found a person that is definitely a serial downvoter, but I can't ban them because they don't make comments. I guess I'll ask the admin to do it.
You can ban anyone from your communities with tesseract.
I love tesseract, but it doesn't save my settings. I guess I could go in and do that specifically. Thanks for the heads up.
Call their behaviour out in the community?
It's a small, new community, which is why I know that they're doing it. It's blatantly obvious.