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“It’s time for a new kind of political party. One that is rooted in your communities, trade unions and social movements. One that builds power in all regions and nations. One that belongs to you.”
What's old is new. At one time, long ago, that was Labour.
Greedy corporate corruption keeps clawing its way back up society's asshole
Enshittification...
Yes, there needs to be a more leftist party in UK politics, but... for christ's sake don't make Gaza your primary messaging. There's a ton of shit going on in the UK right now and Reform are ahead in the polls. Guess what Reform are not talking about? It's Gaza, because it turns out the average twat from the run-down northern town with no job prospects and a dying welfare state doesn't actually give a shit enough to want his government's priorities to be on another nation state when HE'S getting fucked from all sides.
Start your messaging about un-fucking the UK first, and then mention Gaza when asked. It's about being seen as "We're here for YOU" and then when asked about Gaza going "Oh yes we care about that as well, but YOU are the priority", hence the name Your Party.
Hard agree. Hopefully Corbyn has learned that Mamdani style left populism works. Laser focus on bread and butter and just hold the line on foreign policy. That makes the bad faith attacks that WILL come hollow. When you are asked about "but are you antisemitic" you pivot directly to "we will fund programs to combat anti-Semitism at home" and when they say how to fund them you say you will cut immoral military subsidies to oppressive foreign regimes.
On the other hand, isn't support for Israel really unpopular? Having it as one of your primary messages means that people disgruntled with the mainstream parties' stance on Palestine/Israel become interested in your new party
Israel is unpopular, but Israel is not the end-all be-all of British politics.
According to YouGov (admittedly from 2024 but the Gaza War had already kicked off by then), the top 3 issues people vote on are...
For Labour Voters:
When asked what the single most important thing is, the most said Cost of Living
For Conservative Voters:
When asked what the most important thing is, the most said Immigration
For Reform Voters:
When asked what the most important thing is, the most said Immigration.
For the Lib Dems:
When asked what the most important thing is, the most said Health.
There's nothing on the Green Party because they're so irrelevant nobody even counts them.
Of the entire population surveyed, the total percentage of people that considered Gaza to be their highest priority was 2%, and of those 2%, the most were in the 18-24 age bracket at 14%.
Admittedly I may be reading that data wrong, and it is from 2024, but this is more current, and on that list, Israel vs Palestine isn't even counted because it's so low in priority. While yes, Israel is unpopular, in the grand scheme of things and the issues facing the UK right now, nobody gives a shit about Gaza.
I might be delusional, but I’m noticing a gradual awakening and push for change in a number of western countries where regular people are saying they’ve had enough. I’m usually hyper cynical, so someone please let me know if this seems like wish-casting.
I've read that in some of Europe public support for Israel has fallen to about 20%. The trend is in the same direction in the U.S. but not as pronounced. And yet for some reason all these governments keep shipping as many crib-seeking missiles as possible to Israel.
I expect that Israel has got a lot of blackmail material on a lot of people in Government and heading main political parties all over Europe,
Epstein files is their doing. Maxwell and her dad and Epstein has ties to Israeli intelligence
Would that those elected to represent the people actually do so. But that's not likely to happen.
Children seeking missiles.
the UK is getting a Labour party again LETS FUCKING GOOOO
This is the way. We did it in Mexico, it isn't perfect, but it's moving things. Corporate media and the USA government don't like it, but most Mexicans do (like 70-80% by some polls).
Been really excited to see what's coming out of Mexico. We'll have to see how it continues to improve the situation.
I wish the pandemic and second Trump term wouldn't happened, but even with these unfortunate events, things are looking good here. Certainly, things can and should get even better.
Well, if shit hits the fan in the US, I hope you guys will take me.
Gbbies throwing a fit and calling Corbyn an antisemite in 3..2..1.
The UK still has a fptp election system. Splitting the leftist vote, seems like a good way to move the UK further to the right again.
I thought that internal opposition within the Labour party, would have been the way forward. I had the impression that Starmer was very unpopular with Labour members, so why can't they get rid of him and his clique from within the party?
Isn't Reform UK party splitting the right-wing vote? Looks like a perfect moment to enter on the left with any chance of winning. Maybe they simply don't want to sit idly while Labour hands over power to Farage without fighting?
I've done some reading and it turns out that Reform is now sometimes polling at a percentage equal to what Labour last won the elections with (~34%). Labour is polling as low as ~20%, the greens at ~10%. So yes, Reform and Tories are splitting the rightwing vote, but no, the left cannot afford to further split the left vote.
Because of fptp, that 34% result was enough to bring Labour to a 63% majority. Which apart from being ridiculously unrepresentative, also means that Reform could achieve the same result.
As an external observer who would rather not have Reform get in control of the UK, I see 2 possible solutions:
Reform and Tories are splitting the rightwing vote, but no, the left cannot afford to further split the left vote.
There are two ways to look at this and two strategies:
or
The first strategy usually fails because it legitimizes the right and demotivates the left. The second strategy tends to work but is not tried very often.
Reform are splitting both. They're pretty smart in their messaging supporting a few leftist policies that are popular with the working class, while backing the 1% for everything that really matters.
Keir Starmer has explicitly shown the door to left opposition.
Starmer just purges members that make too much trouble like Corbyn, and his majority is so big that he can't really be opposed.
There already is a major party that's actually left wing, the Greens. Its not clear where this new party actually differs from the greens in terms of policy.
Hoping nothing but good things from this
Rachel Riley tweets incoming. Maybe she'll have a new t-shirt to wear?
I honestly would've preferred that he join the greens
Anyone down voting this care to explain why? Genuine question.
divide and conquer
Is this guy still repeating Russian propaganda on the Ukraine war?