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A resurfaced clip shows sex offender Jeffrey Epstein pleading the Fifth when he was asked during a deposition if he ever socialized with underage girls around Donald Trump.

The video clip, unearthed by left-leaning outlet MeidasTouch, shows Epstein responding to questions during a March 2010 deposition. The disgraced financier was questioned by an attorney of an alleged victim, Vice News previously reported.

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[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 229 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bold of you to assume that diseased mushroom head of his still works, at his age and health.

[–] DeviantOvary@reddthat.com 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

PIV is just one form of rape.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yep. This is a little bit of a tangent, but I like to bring this up whenever Trump being a rapist comes up in a thread.

Trump's mouthpieces always claim that he was not found to have raped E. Jean Carroll by the jury. But this is only because the legal definition of rape in New York requires PIV penetration. However the judge has clarified this saying:,

Judge Kaplan provided an unsparing analysis of the legal issues that informed the New York verdict. He wrote: “The only issue on which the jury did not find in Ms Carroll’s favour was whether she proved that Mr Trump ‘raped’ her within the narrow, technical meaning of that term in the New York penal law.

“The jury … was instructed that it could find that Mr Trump ‘raped’ Ms Carroll only if it found that he forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s vagina with his penis.

“It could not find that he ‘raped’ her if it determined that Mr Trump forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s private sexual parts with his fingers – which commonly is considered ‘rape’ in other contexts – because the New York penal law definition of rape is limited to penile penetration.”

“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”

By any reasonable definition, as determined in a court of law by a jury of his peers, Trump is a rapist.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I believe that he possibly also helped facilitate and/or finance Epstein's child rape and blackmail operation.

I don't have any evidence, but I feel it in my bones.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Many people are saying...

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How many more fucking RAGING CLUES do republicans need before they turn on him!?

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

There is no limit. They will never turn on him because of clues, they will only turn on him if they think they can win over him. As long as his pedophile voterbase uncritically supports him, he has the upper hand.

Most never will. Cults love to cover up pedo shit.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Per Trumps own words. Who ever uses the Fifth is guilty.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We already know that Epstein is incontrovertibly guilty though. Nobody doubts this. Trump is the one in the crosshairs today.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Because he had to plead the 5th to protect Donald. We know that Donald is guilty of diddling children.

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[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I, too, would not want to admit to being around Donald Trump.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago

He does exactly that half a minute earlier though. Was basically asked "did you socialize with Donald Trump" which he confirms after clarification. He just plead the fifth after the question was amended with "with females under the age of 18" or whatever the wording was.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 39 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Sure love how the left started putting effort into these leaks after the election

[–] jabeez@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about the MSM? They're fucking bulldogs when they want to be, a bad debate sends them into weeks of non-stop reporting and questioning mental faculties, but somehow they just never give two shits about the dozens of scandals and so much worse from this POSOTUS. All of this could have, and should have, been dug up years ago, they just didn't bother to for some reason until now, assuming it is because ruling class wants him gone before he completely fucks the economy beyond recognition.

[–] bobbyhillnevergrowsup@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think having Musk using his resources to push the Trump Epstein connection is why we're seeing it all over.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 20 points 2 days ago

None of it would have mattered back then. It took the entire Administration to form a phalanx against any demands for release of the files, in a complete reversal of their explicit campaign promises. Many MAGAs based their allegiance on those promises.

Now it turns out that he was bluffing all along, and they are calling his hand, and everyone knows he doesn't have the cards.

There is no “left” in American politics, this is just the people who put him into power handling their liabilities. Trump is just an externality to them.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I think it's clear by now that this is too well organized for the democrats to be behind it. The call is coming from inside the house...

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[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Dear God, I keep expecting this to run out of gas and it just won't quit!

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m really confused why this is all of the sudden a big deal. Everyone is rehashing things that we already know/knew.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Theory is that this is maga realizing they've been played. Trump ran on Epstein files and when they decided the files weren't real, maga realized he's been lying to them.

But who knows.

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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

My current conspiracy theory is that Trump's owners have decided that he's become more of a liability than an asset, and are throwing him under the bus to replace him with someone more under their control.

My "evidence" is that this steady daily trickle of new evidence tying Trump to Epstein didn't just miraculously spawn into existence this week. It's been in people's filing cabinets and video/photo archives for years

I just find it really hard to believe none of this was "found" earlier. Instead it's being "found" now, but not all at once. It's being "found" at a rate that keeps the story at the top of the news cycle.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think that’s very possible. They’re using him as a fall guy too. They want to transition power to someone who’s not so fickle and more loyal while avoiding elections. They have to constantly course correct him because he’s actually wildly incompetent and he goes off script. He’s easy to manipulate but that means he’s easy to manipulate by everyone.

Also, look at all the tech stuff he’s passing right now. It’s super concerning and is going to have long term impact on our ability to do anything beyond tech monopoly control. Everything is “EPSTEIN” meanwhile he’s signing crypto laws, ai deregulation and all kinds of scary dystopian tech bills.

If you don’t know who Curtis Yarvin and what the Dark Enlightenment is and who his acolytes are— it’d be a good place to start to understand what’s possibly happening here. Hint: JD Vance is a loyalist.

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 43 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I don't doubt that Trump did things like what he is accused of but taking the 5th is not an admission of guilt and we can't assume this is a smoking gun .

Taking the 5th is like playing an Uno reverse card. It's saying prove it I won't help even if I didn't do it.

[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 63 points 2 days ago (6 children)

While technically true, it is indubitably terrible optics for Trump. Specially since he was answering questions freely and then seemed to abruptly swerve that specific question.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Except there's a clip of Trump saying something along the lines of 'nobody pleads the fifth because they're innocent'.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

"If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" - Taco

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[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Translation: "Every single time I can think to tell about being with Trump in the vicinity of children, we fucked em."

[–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*violated their body and soul

Thank you. Let's not downplay anything

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It still blows my mind that 'rapist is rapist's is somehow this important. What do you expect will happen? Suddenly the king realizes it's bad to do this and becomes a good person?

Stop fucking falling for the billionaires' distractions

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You think this is a distraction? The most damaging scandal for the billionaires' president is actually a secret plot so we should just ignore it and focus on an unspecified not-damaging story?

These memes about media manipulation by mastermind powers puppetting everything often just seem like an excuse for perpetual inaction. It's the lefty version of the liberal "keeping our powder dry", where no current conflict is ever worth engaging in because somehow action is always playing into the opponents' hands and the savvy move is either inaction or refocusing on something else without traction.

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[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The video on the page didn't load for me, even if I turned off ublock origin (is the video even there?)

So I found it elsewhere: https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1948178548998762586

EDIT: Link to xcancel instead, so you don’t have to login to see replies: https://xcancel.com/MeidasTouch/status/1948178548998762586

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights

I've never before heard of anybody claiming any rights other than the 5th when answering a question.

The sixth amendment is:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The "assistance of counsel" part seems to make sense when being questioned, if he didn't already have a lawyer present. But, the rest of that seems unrelated to answering a question.

Cop: "Were you with Trump at the child-raping party?"

Epstein: "I assert the right to a speedy trial!"

As for the 14th, that's the one currently in the news because Trump wants to strip citizenship:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

That's also a very weird one to plead. Talking about your citizenship in an interview like that seems irrelevant.

Cop: "Was it just Trump who was raping kids, or were you doing it too?"

Epstein: "I assert the right to due process!"

Cop: "Yes... this questioning is your due process. That's what's happening here."

I wonder why he didn't claim others. 4th seems more relevant than 14th, for example. 8th is also useful if they want to put you in jail. At least he didn't invoke the 27th

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i plead the second 🔫BLAM BLAM BLAM

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

"If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" -Taco

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