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October 28, 2019. After several months in office, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrived at NABU to address detectives:

"The main question, why I came to you with my colleagues, is to charge you with this energy, so that you understand: we will not and do not want to influence you, but we really want, as people who represent society, I, as the elected president, really want you to know that your hands are not tied. Please, we really want all top corrupt officials to really receive deserved sentences. Because society will never forgive us for this."

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

False narrative. Zelensky wants to fight corruption, but the way he wanted to take control of it, was not accepted. So instead he accepted the voice of the people, and took a step back.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because there is close to zero people that are loyal to Ze and Yermak is the one that was attacked by NABU (and Yermak is his most loyal and most influential man). Not that organisation itself isn't corrupt (they do part of finding corruption, true, they just keep this information for later use).

Also after not vetoing it (which was regarded after public backlash) Zelensky now tries to roll it back, one of the stupidest move by him I've seen to this day.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is it stupid? Honest question, I don't know enough about Ukrainian politics.

Because it was a good change? Because it signals weakness? Why was it stupid of him to listen to the people and change his position?

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stupid part was to sign it after protests, then in two days to try and roll it back due to same protests. He has a right to veto any law, there was no need to sign it immediately, there are laws that remain unsigned for long time.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, sure. Maybe the protests convinced him he made a mistake? I'd rather a leader who admits mistakes and reverses them, than one who insists they never make mistakes, or who never tries to correct them. I'm willing to give Z the benefit of a doubt, and I admire his willingness to listen to the people he's supposed to be governing. But, he's not my leader, and it's up to Ukrainians to decide whether he made a terminal error. It sounds as if you're on the "it's unforgiveable" side.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah protests convinced him there is no questions there. Also it could have been predicted by anyone with functioning brain, which tells me that either Ze doesn't understand laws that he signs or he can't arrive to extremely simple idea that making independent anticorruptions agency depend on those that they should in theory prosecute is a dumb move even if his friend will suffer in consequence.

I mean, in the end everyone will probably 'win' in this situation. Ze will get his approval boost for listening to people, SBU will get whatever dirt they wanted out of NABU hands and a few r*ssian agents and assets, NABU will be idependent again.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

It could also be that Zelenskyy still thinks it's a needed tool, but it's willing to bow to the will of the people. That's the most charitable interpretation, because it's the opposite of authoritarianism: a leader going against their own opinion in favor of their constituency.

I have to say, I like Zelenskyy. Maybe he's the right person at the right time, and maybe he wouldn't have been a great peacetime leader, but he seems to have done well for Ukraine during this crisis.