Modern devs dump any dependency and sub-dependency under the sun into their project and don't bother about optimizing it. That's how you end up with absurdly large applications. Especially electron is a problem in this regard.

You can still write optimized and small software. However, for most businesses, it's just not worth their time. Rather using an additional couple hundred megabytes of dependencies on the client system.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In terms of programming, absolutely some bloat there.

But I would wager a majority (or plurality) would actually be high(er) res media assets, embedded animations and video etc.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’d wager it’s the multilevel dependency of countless prebuilt components when devs are only going to use a small fraction of their capabilities.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don't get paid to optimize, I get paid to implement features.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's the secret sauce, called unnecessary frameworks and user analytics modules.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

With that in mind, I LOVE how lean and fast some FOSS apps/projects are. One of my motivations to go searching for FOSS alternatives is when something seems slow for no reason.

It's not always the case, but it's often the case

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

KDE Plasma has been getting so much more efficient with every release that you can almost recommend it for low-end systems.

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I remeber using plasma on a weak 2016 160 usd laptop with no issue in 2018, I can only imagine how much better is now

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Electron everywhere.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 9 months ago

And analytics. And offloading as much computation to the client, because servers are expensive and inefficiency is not an issue if your users are the ones paying for it.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Web "Apps" are also quite bad. Lots of and lots of stuff we're downloading and it feels clunky.

Sometimes that's bad coding, poor optimization, third party libraries, or sometimes just including trackers/ads on the page.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I vaguely recall a recent-ish article that an average web page is 30mb. That's right, thirty megabytes.

It's amazing how much faster web browsing becomes when I run PiHole and block most of it.

Suddenly the TV is pretty snappy, and all browsers feel so much smoother.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

And I'm sitting here uneasy thinking how the hell I'm going to compress my map data any further so that my entire web app is no bigger than 2 mb. 😥