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[–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    patronizing is exactly the right word holy shit :(

    i am not a single issue voter and i’m highly critical of those telling me to utterly ditch the blue vote. but i am very uncomfortable with this portrayal of the pro-Palestine movement and i hope you, the reader, are too

    the artist of this should feel some level of shame i think

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (6 children)

    I'm deeply uncomfortable with the amount of people calling those wholly opposed to complicity in genocide as "single issue voters". Sure, if genocide isn't enough of a concern for you to oppose candidates that are complicit, then I guess you can call it "single issue".

    We're talking genocide here, so I'm going to compare this to the most known genocide on the planet. Imagine if we knew about and could see the Holocaust occurring as it happened when it started, and FDR was funding the Reich including circumventing congress. Would you expect people to still vote for FDR, or would you expect people to oppose his candidacy? This caliber of rhetoric as well as this post has turned this leftist away from my plan to vote for Biden. Nice work folks. I'll be voting for Cornel West and trying to keep the liberal trifecta in my state legislature this year.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And I'm deeply uncomfortable thinking that giving a chance to the candidate that thinks Hitler is a great guy AND the USA should do some of the same things as Nazi Germany while he'll ALSO keep funding Nazi Germany, but even harder, is sane - let alone even a viable argument for those already opposed to the current choice already funding genocide.

    Even the EU is learning how stupid Americans are and are making plans to not rely on it at all + make entry harder (next year you won't be able to travel to just countries here for extended stay easily anymore by passport alone for example). And dumbasses like you are proving there's a severe lack of critical thinking.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If these are the best candidates we can put up then maybe we deserve to lose our spot as the world's last super power.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    USA definitely deserved to lose that spot long ago, but NOT if it means China takes its place - don't think y'all are so special as to be the only world super power. Pre - Xi maybe, but Xi has made it clear they want to go the "world emperor" path and China would also be a terrible Steward. At least the USA doesn't kidnap foreign citizens / expats to make them disappear, or actively trying to annex loca countries anymore.

    But we do know that Trump would do something similar (Khashoggi being a good example). The fact is the USA would still be a world leader because the existing economic and military connections it has wouldn't disappear overnight - the only difference is the world would be a worse place.

    Although Biden is obviously a terrible candidate, it's just not even a contest that Trump is greatly, significantly worse. The Democrats are definitely seeing a "cry wolf" effect because although previous Republican candidates have indeed been terrible, none (aside from Bush Jr) have really threatened the power structure of the USA as much as Trump term 2 would.

    If you still have doubts, read Project 2025. They are literally telling you they will turn the USA into a Christo-fascist autocracy.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Don't worry, the folks who aren't voting for Biden over Palestine aren't voting for Trump either, so it balances out.

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Okay making a top level comment after quite a bit of research.

    The artist of this cartoon has literally never expressed criticism of the US’s participation in genocide nor apartheid—nor even of the involvement of the military-industrial complex—even once since October 7.

    So if this post comes off as excessively patronizing to some, there may be a reason for that, as the tone here is not all that different from the rest of the guy’s work.

    That does not mean that there is no valid concern from the artist here. Whatever your plans are for November, a Trump win is going to result in some non-zero excess harm against the vulnerable and the environment over what would be involved in a Biden win in the short run—that much most of us can agree on.

    But the comic does this point in such a fucking tone deaf way? like hawt damn.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 years ago

    I personally interpered the comic as a criticism of people vowing to vote third party, not a criticism of people protesting Gaza as a whole. I hate what Isreal is doing in Gaza, but I'm not going to throw my vote away on a third parry this election when Trump would make everything including Gaza so much worse.

    More of the artist's work concerning Gaza:

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Lemmy.world is pro genocide

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Off course they are busy with such issue.

    How much of an issue would it be if it was you running away with your family from place to another, starving and getting bombed, to realize the next morning, that you have lost your mom and have to burry your sister, your kids are under the rubble, one is limpless for life now, another is dead, another still missing.

    How would you feel if the people selling and enabling your genocide, or the people who have the power to step in and help, are discussing school lunch and economy issues, while yours are non-existant. I bet you cannot afford to give half a fuck about the economy, or college tuition, or housing affordability, or nothing else.

    War and genocide cannot simply be dissmissed as another issue. This issue is literally life and death, pain and torture, and every decision that causes it to happen is everything of someone's life.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    Both parties support Israel. Voting will not prevent the genocide regardless of who you vote for or if you don't vote at all. But a whole host of other issues that affect peoples' lives WILL be affected by that choice. So rather than focus on what you have zero control over as far as voting goes, focus on what you do.

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Wow, look at all those issues democrats won't actually do anything about, they'll just let republicans destroy those things so they can scream about them to get votes and continue to do nothing about them.

    Oh, and democrats support genocide. No amount of whataboutism should disguise the fact that democrats are deep throating a genocidal apartheid ethnostate led by far-right war criminals.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Thank you for your well-researched and very-nuanced view, I hope you enjoy Donald “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.” Trump's next term, 2024-20??

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    How do you think we got trump in the first place? The awfulness of the republican party did not begin with him and will not end with him, but the whole time democrats have insisted that we need a republican party. It's a tag team play that ends in fascism regardless. If trump is beaten, the next bogeyman will be there for democrats to point at and claim "we just need to beat this one guy and then we'll work on issues you care about, we swear" yet again.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Looks like there is a crystal clear direction Biden can take and win over a substantial amount of voters. I'm not sure blaming people protesting genocide for Biden's drop in approval ratings, rather than Biden himself for tanking them, will encourage anyone to vote for Biden.

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  • Why doesn't she have a sign that says "Stop genocide in Palestine"?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You SHOULD vote for Joe, but fucking hell this is HIS fault. Voters are a swirling mass of people. It might as well be fluid dynamics. Bad policies and apathy WILL affect support. It's going to. You can't stop it. You can't shame it back again either. You can't win back tent guy's vote by blaming him for Joe Biden's failures.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    People who make these typa posts are the same people who wouldn't show up to a protest for any of these things

    yall are actually insane if you think protesting genocide is somehow mutually exclusive from other issues, or that pressuring Biden automatically means you're voting for Trump

    Both this community and Politics have some of the dumbest party shill takes ever.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah. Save the "democracy" which puts the whole force of the law on you when you protest for Palestine or against Cop City.

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    The comics making a point about how many crises we're facing. But Biden is already president. These are his crises.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This sentiment ignores that there is more to the government than the president and that the president is not (currently) a dictator.

    (The conservatives in the judiciary seem primed to make the presidency a dictatorship, but won't do it while a Democrat is on office)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I guess Biden better... Earn more votes.

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    [–] 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I think this is a pretty silly comic. It’s a massive whataboutism.

    At the beginning of the war I’d always hear “But what about hamas!??1! Do you condemn hamas!?!1”

    Then I saw “But what about trump!!1! Obviously you need to support biden while he funds this genocide because the other option is worse!!1!”

    Now, I’m seeing “But what about climate change!?!?!? What about the corrupt courts ??!?!?!? But what about reproductive rights ?!?!?”

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    [+] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Don't worry, single issue voters are very rare. They're being loud right now on Lemmy, but I honestly don't see them anywhere else. I'm pretty sure at least a third are paid actors too, but I can't prove that.

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    I wish I could get paid to post, but unfortunately, I signed a noncompete agreement with George Soros for a role as a paid actor in a false flag mass shooting so now I'm not allowed to be a paid actor in any other conspiracy theories. I'm just opposing genocide pro bono to keep my posting skills sharp so that I can apply once my contract expires.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The division on the left over Palestine has got to be the dumbest fucking shit I've ever seen. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    The division on the left over Palestine

    There is no "division on the left" over Palestine.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There's just people who'd set America as well as global stability on fire to prove a "point" and there's people who wouldn't

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    [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Everyone shut the fuck up and vote Biden. We'll figure everything else out later.

    The alternative is we do not get a later. Ever again.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Apparently it's never the time to actually improve things because there are elections every two years and anyone disrupting party unity (which insists on keeping the status quo) at any time is supposedly a risk.

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