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"The Republican bill is a terrible option," Schumer said in his remarks. "It is deeply partisan. It doesn't address far too many of this country's needs. But I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."
You fucking twat
OK democratic leadership, you win; I'll quit voting for your party.
OK democratic leadership, you win; I’ll quit voting for your party.
May not matter at the rate we're going.
congratulation you filthy trump supporter
And vote Republican instead? Yeah, that'll show'em.
If Republicans didn't have majority then there wouldn't be any DNC making difficult choices. Not voting for democrats is exactly what caused this problem you're supposedly outraged by.
I've held my nose and voted for the Democrats my entire adult life, including mid-terms. Guess I just gotta take it up the ass like the good rube that I am, since the Democrats don't know how to win.
Why are you ashamed at yourself for doing the correct thing? Likening yourself to a cuck surrendering to rape because you voted for your own wellbeing and that of others?
I'm not seeing the connection here. Maybe keep your weird sexual fantasies out of politics, or start assigning blame where it deserves to be.
I was speaking figuratively. The "blame" for the inability to win lies upon the corporatist/"fascist-lite" DNC and their sycophants and cronies. Especially considering that in the last election, they had the largest campaign war-chest in recorded history and still lost. They've continuously paid lip-service to the working class and now they wonder why ~~they lose~~ they're hated.
Primary them. The primary is where a protest vote actually matters. It’s where you’ll get the opportunity to replace your dem with a BETTER candidate instead of a worse one in the general election.
"I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."
What's his reason for saying this? How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?
Citing what I saw on Philip DeFranco earlier, apparently in a shutdown the executive branch has a lot of power in terms of what specifics get shutdown and how.
Was news to me considering the shitshow that happens every time the budget needs to be voted on but with all the DOGEness going on makes sense that there's extra caution around this. Still sucks that Dems rolled over so easily.
Nothing is stopping the republicans from shutting it down themselves if it was so beneficial to Trump.
And it’s not like they wouldn’t lie and blame it on the Democrats, so there’s minimal risk in voter agitation vs alleged reward.
Plus it's a great opportunity for dozens of trolls to push a republican narrative on social media. Maybe a message to anyone left-leaning to stop voting.
Probably in the minority here and I'm not a fan of establishment Democrats, but his reasoning that Trump would use the shutdown to move without court interference seemed logical to me.
You know Trump could have just vetoed the spending bill and then got his shutdown right? Or the Republicans could have not submitted a bill or even voted against with that argument that it was better for Trump to have his way.
This has just legitimized him further in that when push comes to shove people (Democrats) do agree with giving him what he wants. He's an unchecked bully.
This is not logical it's easy.
Whoever shuts down the government, loses. Republicans can't just veto the bill or not pass a budget. But they CAN pass something Democrats don't like and then blame Democrats for shutting down the government if they filibuster it. And voters WOULD blame Democrats, because they would be the party blocking the bill.
Run through the logic, after they stop this budget. Trump does whatever he wants while people blame Democrats, and eventually the Democrats cave and pass it anyway after allowing irreperable harm and harming their ability to take back the House in 2026, or they cave by letting Trump whatever he wants indefinitely.
The fascists will do what they want either way. They only use laws when it is convenient for them to do so.
What the fascists wanted was to be legitimized by bipartisan support of their bill. They wanted the Democrats to consent in advance. To take the next small step willingly.
Chuck Schumer has handed the country over to the fascists in exchange for nothing because he serves the same billionaires.
There wasn't a sudden realization from Schumer that flipped his opposition on Wednesday to his support on Thursday. That was his obvious cover to try to hide the billionaires he serves. Don't fall for it.
Whoever controls the messaging can blame the other party for the shutdown. Democrats don't bother to even have a narrative let alone control one. They fight in a strictly performative way. So no matter what happens Republicans can always blame Democrats and without an alternative view point pushed people who aren't politically engaged are more likely to believe Republicans.
The ten Democrat Senators who voted for the CR do not care about winning. They care about raising their donors' stock portfolios.
The fascists will do what they want either way. They only use laws when it is convenient for them to do so.
If that's your actual stance, then none of what Schumer or any Democrat does, matters at all.
What the fascists wanted was to be legitimized by bipartisan support of their bill. They wanted the Democrats to consent in advance. To take the next small step willingly.
In what world is this the thing that matters? You're really saying fascists would do whatever they want regardless of all laws or institutions, but...not really, the one man holding them back was Chuck Schumer, minority leader in the Senate.
Chuck Schumer has handed the country over to the fascists in exchange for nothing because he serves the same billionaires.
I see how you're getting here, he does fund raise from Democratic billionaires, but the Internet Leftist urge to just dismiss anyone with any political power as not ideologically pure enough and thus the enemy puts such a small ceiling on the movement in terms of actual political results. Nothing to do with this comment thread it's just something that annoys me.
There wasn't a sudden realization from Schumer that flipped his opposition on Wednesday to his support on Thursday. That was his obvious cover to try to hide the billionaires he serves. Don't fall for it.
He flipped overnight, ok. What's the more likely scenario, he got some overnight polling that showed people were going to blame the Democrats for the shutdown so he switched out of political necessity, or he...secretly agreed with the Republicans the whole time but decided to pretend to oppose it for exactly one day for no reason.
Whoever controls the messaging can blame the other party for the shutdown. Democrats don't bother to even have a narrative let alone control one.
Voters are not dumb, they just don't all agree with you politically. They blamed Congressional Republicans in the Ted Cruz shutdown over Obamacare, and they blamed Trump in the shutdown over the Wall. Because those are the people who caused it. In this case, it would be the Democrats forcing a shutdown.
I quit. American politics are a circus sideshow full of dancing turds. At this point, let it burn. The side that I vote for won’t even stand up against this shit, so what good is my vote now?
Just a bunch of rich assholes doing whatever they want.
It won’t burn on its own. It will only get worse if left unattended.