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Explanation: While history is vast and multifaceted, horrors abound. In the US, undoubtedly, there has been land theft, slavery, and genocide in our history, and in no small amount. However, while 'Vietnamese farmers' is memeing it up a bit, we certainly did not win the Vietnam War, despite our brutal conduct therein.
You don't hear much about color symbolism in the US flag. Guess it just looked nice.
There isn't color symbolism in the US flag, which is why you never hear about it. They really were just the standard flag colors everyone was using, so we went with them too.
Now im just thinking that you could probably turn "guess where im from by the symbolism of my country's flag" into a fun game
The colors in the flag are red, white and blue. The colors have no special meaning in the flag.
The relevant bit. IIRC it uses those colors both because those were the two most commonly available colors of fabric dye at the time (indigo and turkey red) and because everyone else used those damn colors too so why be different. That first one might be apocryphal, I admit.
If you look at the countries using the colors… UK, Australia, France, Russia… there’s kind of an underlying pattern of behavior too… they all seem to share this “culture” of colors.
It would probably be more accurate to observe that genocide, land theft, and slavery are pretty common throughout human history.
Context matters. Colonialism is a uniquely European affair with a particularly potent flavor of slavery and genocide. It’s not simply groups going after their neighbors to settle generational feuds.
Eh, Imperial Japan sure had a good crack at Euro-style colonialism, even if they started a bit late.
If you're not going after your neighbours (or your neighbours' neighbours, once you conquer your neighbours), then you need a blue-water navy and preferably gunboats. And that's mostly a European thing, though you've got a bit of Qing Dynasty, Japan, and some chicken/egg questions over building the boats vs colonising.
There's a big pile over on /r/AskHistorians: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1aot4nr/why_is_the_term_colonialism_largely_not_applied/
While that’s a good example it’s an exception not the rule. Imperialism vs the racist genocidal settler colonialism witnessed by European global expansion isn’t quite mom-and-pops old style imperialist or empire-style expansionism.
You can argue while some newer players like WWII Japan and modern-day Israel may not be as Eurocentric, that doesn’t change its birthplace.
Also, when you mention modern slavery and indigenous genocide people don’t go, “oh right! Japan!! The Ottomans or the Ming Dynasty!” They immediately think of Native American or Aboriginal genocide and multigenerational slavery based on race and industrialized into a global economy; one still hellbent on erasure of local culture and homogenization of “values” globally.
In fact, if neo-colonialism has its way the only place for unique human expression will be looking down upon it from behind museum glass as a memory of a different “time”. Cultural uniformity makes stable profitable consumer markets (or so the theory goes). You’re not wrong but I wouldn’t be so quick to say “hey, but look, they do it too!”
Referencing a subreddit is like asking hillbillies what they think for Trump. Next you'll probably link to British historians about how the British freed regions from savages or oppression during their imperialism and how famine they caused was not their mistake.
80% of reddit's traffic is like US/Europe, you think they'll have fair discussions about what Europe-US did/does/will do?
I've literally seen 100s of posts praising bush because he paints now or is seen with barracks wife. Both war criminals. That place is not a place for political information.
You should be ashamed of posting a link to a propaganda site.
80% of reddit’s traffic is like US/Europe, you think they’ll have fair discussions about what Europe-US did/does/will do?
Yes. Puting aside the memes for a second, nobody is more critical of their own government than the citizens of said government (even if in abstract they benefit from the actions of said government, ex: like americans with the american cultural hegemony). It's why fascists always go after dissidents the hardest, because the people who are most familiar with the group are the ones with the most capacity to be insightfully critical about said group, and this threatens the ideal unity (or whatever they call it). This is fundamental to political theory. Marx and Engels have a whole musical number about this concept.
Colonialism is a uniquely European affair with a particularly potent flavor of slavery and genocide.
Jesus fucking Christ.
You do realize China is doing the same exact shit in SE Asia and Africa right now, as we speak right? Also this shit has happened between Asian and African countries for all of recorded history.
"Racism is okay if you're stripping the agency of non-European cultures for evil!", it would seem.
Cuba, Costa Rica, Chile, Netherlands, Norway, Liberia, Iceland, Laos, Croatia all also use that color scheme. Not all of them are innocent of colonialism, sure, but lets not get carried away with the metaphor here.
Shouldn't 'land theft' be blue, not black? Or am I not quite awake yet.
E: I swear the blue in the key looked black earlier, guess my eyes weren't working properly...