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[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Citizens should up their shooting of DEA agents in response. Who's going to see without the body cam? Seems American institutions need to go back to learning by trial and error.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well they're going to go with the 'a cops word is always believed' crap.

Not if you don’t leave any cops to testify.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The wealthiest nation on the planet has to abandon accountability to save a few bucks.

Clown country.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

And give double that money to Elon. He needs it for a solid gold hot tub or something.

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 146 points 3 days ago

Turns out the current administration is not huge on accountability. I'm shocked.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago

It was just so inconvenient having to remember to cut them off before flagrantly breaking the law

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 120 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

And find a way to have it automatically sync to the cloud, with automatic release if certain reporting in parameters aren’t met

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 56 points 3 days ago (2 children)

~~the ACLU Mobile Justice app does this~~

Holy shit they shut it down a month after dorito stain took office what the fuck

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bad timing, but I'm guessing they ran out of funding to continue app development, since now they have so much legal battles to do. The app was already broken, buggy, and barely functional for the past 5 years.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. The current best option is probably a regular video + cloud sync like Google Photos.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Or YouTube live

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That app has been junk for several years. I think there was a change in permissions in one of the Android versions that made it useless, they never updated it.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"There's no corruption here", said the corrupt regime.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 21 points 2 days ago

What do you mean? They obviously have nothing to hide…

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Losers. I guess the citizens should just record them at all times. For record sake.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You should've anyway. Redundancy is best.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Especially since they regularly refuse to release body cam footage.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Body cams were never a solution to anything. I remember multiple police murders recorded on body cams were the officer was acquitted by the jury. Police murder is basically legal in US*. Recording it doesn't change anything. As for police brutality in general they simply learned to shout "stop resisting" when beating people up. Without basic accountability the recording are useless.

*It's enough if police officer thinks he is in danger to make killing legal. Pretty much if he's scared he can shoot. Body cams can't prove he wasn't scared.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Body cams aren't the solution, but they do help a lot. When cops have zero oversight, they commit way more atrocities, on average.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You should read this: https://prismreports.org/2024/07/16/complex-troubling-history-police-body-cameras/

"Long before body cameras were introduced to the public and found themselves in mainstream conversations about police reform, they were first peddled to police departments by tech companies and major corporations.

With body cameras, law enforcement agencies could expand their surveillance capacity, mitigate police brutality lawsuits, create “highly controllable evidence” against the largely poor, largely Black citizens of whom police often seek to capture footage, and quell social unrest by creating “comprehensive digital archives” of attendees at protests for social change"

"It was the 2014 police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, that would forever change the public conversation around police accountability and allow body cameras to take center stage. Almost immediately, body cameras were no longer being pitched behind closed doors to police departments, but were rather presented to the public as an invaluable tool for police “reform” and increased “transparency.”"

[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Anyone can record in public at any time anyway. There's no reason to not have police body cams even if they aren't as effective as they should be. The police will always have body cameras if they want them, and they don't want them. If the police don't want to wear them, that tells me that they probably should even if we need to work on getting public access to the footage.

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[–] FrostyCaribou@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious about the "highly controllable evidence" part. Perhaps this conversation isn't attainable without getting into vast generalizations, however, in my experience officers generally activate their cameras when they respond to a crime and don't turn them off until they are no longer investigating the crime. This is generally when the defendant has already been interviewed and is custody in a police vehicle. If there are subsequent interviews, they turn back on their cameras.

I know my experience is not universal, but body cameras seem to be a great way to maintain transparency in investigations since defendants and prosecutors will both have video/audio of the investigation.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In another comment I posted a link to another study that shows police does not provide footage from most of police shootings. Yes, most of the time the camera is recording but most of the time only police can see the footage. That's what they mean by "highly controllable evidence”. When it exonerates the officer they give to the TV stations in a matter of hours. When it doesn't they hide it and you have to fight them in courts for years to see it.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a reason some cops turn off their body cams before certain encounters, it's because some places do hold them accountable. At least there's a public record

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 2 days ago

There's always a small chance police officer will be held accountable but in vast majority of cases the system simply doesn't work. Body cameras are part of that system. They are used to create evidence the police can control and use in their favor. In most cases they simply hide the recordings (https://www.propublica.org/article/how-police-undermined-promise-body-cameras?c_src=33685809.57194).

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago

If asked about how DEA agents died, people will say "Dunno", and there will be no camera to say otherwise.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 days ago

With them being able to turn it off at any time they felt like it anyway, it's not like body cameras were fulfilling their (dishonestly) stated purpose of improved transparency.

Still a very bad sign that they no longer feel the need to even PRETEND to care, though..

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Mob rule. And not the angry crowd of people type. The Organized Crime type.

America is going to resemble every 1990s russian gangster's wet dream in half the time.

In darkness freedom dies.

[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 45 points 3 days ago

Turns out it shows more evidence of corruption.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 41 points 3 days ago

A reminder to all that if there is no body cam footage when there should be, that is reasonable doubt. You have to assume the officers did the worst actions possible, and did so maliciously.

[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

“Dea says crime is warranted for stopping more crime”

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago

It’s so you won’t see them sprinkle crack on the dead black man like Salt Bae.

[–] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago

Well yeah, now they can plant evidence against people opposing the ruling administrations policies.

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