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Matrix vs XMPP vs IRC (feddit.it)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/selfhost@lemmy.ml
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I've been self hosting a matrix istance for a while, but I'm honestly really really tired of bugs on clients and authentication not working, I know matrix is very feature rich and is awesome that is federated, but I'd prefer to use something which loads my server less and which is more simple despite lacking some features, what do you think?

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[–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What features does XMPP not have?

https://xmpp.org/extensions/

https://providers.xmpp.net/

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not OP, but what I do lack here is a decent server Implementation in a single binary and easy deployment.

    Also decent native clients for various platforms. Do we have any good ones?

    This probably isn't a xmpp specific, but I'd like to have it work like wireguard. If the keys are wrong, self hosted instance would just reject it on the packet level. Then only authorized clients could use it. Outgoing connection on some hub instance would give access to outside world. All this would help with self hosting.

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    • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As long as you're not trying to have e2e encrypted group chats xmpp works flawlessly.

    With that it can have some bugs in my experience.

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    In order of fuss, config ease, and resource requirements, it's: IRC < XMPP < Matrix

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I have self-hosted Matrix for a couple of years. I eventually settled with xmpp/ejabberd/conversations. It is easier to maintain and less resource intensive, especially if you want to go the federation route.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I just use linphone with flexisip. I don't understand why SIP dropped out of this chain.

    And yes, there are encrypted 1-on-1 or group chats and you can send photos and documents. As a bonus, you can connect a SIP provider to access the telephony line.

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