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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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I DM'd db0 before posting this, but didn't give them the substance of the post. Without knowing all that was going on, they approved me, but if after reading this they decide to remove it, I understand.

Hey, Fediverse.

I've been modding !news@lemmy.world, !politicalmemes@lemmy.world, !movies@lemmy.world, !games@lemmy.world, !gaming@lemmy.world and others for a while now. I've been the subject of many posts on this very community in fact. Usually, the people here agree with my decisions, and I appreciate all feedback, good or bad.

Well, as you know doubt know (and if you don't, go through my comment history), I've tried my best to stay out of the whole "Lemmy.world admin/mod" thing going on.

I didn't post anything other than facts, and I didn't pick sides. This is because on a personal level, Staments and Jordan Lund are friends of mine. I have talked to them on multiple occasions about many things not fedi-related.

When the whole thing came out from the write-up Stamets did here, I followed it, but kept to myself. Friends shouldn't pick favorites. I still won't speak my mind on that topic.

I WILL, however, speak towards how the admins handled it.

They blatantly said that they didn't like the behavior being pointed out to be the face of lemmy.world. They also took minimum action. For 2 weeks.

What became of that? After 2 weeks, the punted it to the moderation team. Me, and @Tenthrow@lemmy.world .

I can't speak for Tenthrow, but I was given no notice of this decision. During the 2 weeks of silence, they messaged me a total of 1 time to remind me that as the top moderator of news, I had the power to remove Jordan from the moderation staff.

Now, let me say this: the whole time he moderated news, I only had a single complaint about his activity. I banned him for 2 days for that.

Back to the topic at hand. Fast forward to a couple days ago, and I get a few messages about an update in the lemmy world announcement community.

They had decided to remove top mod from Jordan on all communities without talking to the mods. They then said "The new top mods can now take appropriate actions". This means that I became the top moderator of !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world with no notice (a failing on the platform, imo - why couldn't they notify us when we are added as a mod?). I decided to demoderate Jordan in the communities we are in together, as I just am tired of all the drama. I hope he understands that.

Again, I had no reason to remove him from the mod team in my communities, but for them to pass the buck to me, without any kind of heads-up? That was too much. Us mods do a lot of shit. We take a TON of shit. We're human, and we make mistakes. All we ask is that the admins keep their shit in their toilet, and off our plate.

This isn't the first time the admin team has made...questionable decisions. A while back they told everybody that they were not allowing people to remove alternative views. This logically included some stupid shit like flat-earth views. They never changed that rule, but never touched on the topic again.

Because of this, I have decided that while Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole is a worthy experiment, I have reached the end of my time here.

I will say that the people on the admin staff and I are friendly, mostly. There's the odd person that calls me some weird shit, but I'm a weird guy. Overall, I've had positive interactions with them, but they often forget that moderators deal with hundreds to thousands of reports a day (on some days, obviously), keeping the platform civil and clean for them, at no cost.

My final day will be 20 October, 2025. After that, I will leave the account active, but won't be checking on it.

I wish everybody reading this (and those that haven't) the best here, and I hope it can be built into something that is better than where we came from. I just don't have the energy to take hits from both sides anymore.

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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Enjoy your social media-free life buddy.

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Gonna miss having you around man. I appreciate all you have done and hope to see you come back soon. I get it though. Trust me... I get it.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 13 hours ago

Unfortunate to see anyone other than extremists leaving Lemmy, but if the stress associated with staying is too much, it's understandable to want a break from it.

Hopefully if you decide to return eventually, things will have improved by then.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 13 hours ago

Hey Jons, I hope you and your loved ones are doing good. I had enormous respect for you and your conduct on this platform, and you'll be sorely missed, but you gotta do what's right for you.

Whether you eventually come back as a regular user, or sign up and give Piefed a go, or this is permanently the end of the line for your threadiverse adventure, I wish you well.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Can't blame you for doing so, the .world admins absolutely dropped the ball on this one and it's shitty that they dumped all of this onto you. Shame on them, and I hope you have a better time elsewhere.

[–] Blaze@lazysoci.al 16 points 19 hours ago

Hello,

Thank you for moderating those communities for so long.

Good luck with your break, would be nice to see you back after a while, even just as a lurker/commenter, on Piefed or another Lemmy instance of your choice.

Take care!

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago

I can't imagine dealing with hundreds of reports. Once I spent thirty minutes trying to decide if a user's posted video was within the rules. It was a low effort video and barely relevant to the community but I still felt bad removing it and then i had to explain to them why I decided to remove it.

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 33 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I straight up blocked lemmy.world like a week into using lemmy, I saw the rot that was coming from that house. I think they're too big for their own good, that power goes to ones head.

Best of luck tho JonsJava, and thanks for your hard work nonetheless - even though I never personally saw it.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 22 hours ago

I don't even remember when I blocked .world, but every interaction I have with .worlders and any time I see drama from the instance, I'm reminded that I made a good decision.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The more the merrier for Lemmy to me. Would love people staying. Hope you return some day on the much superior db0.

Lemmy.world was always a bad idea no offense.

Modding several political comms was too.

I have no clue about the drama so not gonna talk about all that.

PS. I'm not blaming you for anything. Would love to have you back on Lemmy.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

They needed more and more help, and I volunteered. I only have myself to blame.

Nobody forced me to moderate.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not digging into the drama but I appreciate any human that volunteers service for moderation. THANK YOU sorry it's a burden, but that moderation is one of the negative bits of the fediverse, Lemmy and beyond. it's more solvable going back the other way with a single top down entity setting the controls. but that seems to just lead to content for profit.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Completely agree. I'd rather have no social media rather than corpo social media

Oh, I'll keep my mastodon account, but they don't cross over, the way I see content there.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Moderation is only an issue on comms of certain topics. Or comms too vague and big.

Thats about 20 comms. Noone should be modding more than one of those.

For 2 years I've been on Lemmy. Mod 10 communities. I can be inactive for a month and things run smoothly behind me. Never seen any drama, haven't deleted a single post or comment.

Modding is not a big deal. Just let it run democratically. Hell I noticed 3 comments saying they didn't like AI on !aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz and I held a vote.

Poof issue gone (granted thats incredibly low stakes).

Modding several polical comms is just ludicrous. (Not a critique of op, you do you.)

Just keep minimal rules, barely anything more than instance rules and be hesitant about bans etc. A DM does the trick.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is .world the only instance or am I missing something here? Like are these admins you speak of all Lemmy or just .world?

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

as my account is a lemmy.world (as is yours!) account, and the communities I moderate reside on lemmy.world, when I talk about the admins, I am only talking about the lemmy.world admins

[–] oce@jlai.lu 28 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think he's pointing at at the fact you mention leaving Lemmy because of Lemmy.world issues. Why not use another instance, as a mod or not?

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just tired of it, I guess.

Naturally, I'm a lurker. Moderation has been the most I've ever interacted on social media, and that started here.

I think it's just best to make a clean cut.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No offense, but that really sounds silly. Sh.itjust.works have been nothing but awesome as admins. I moderate a fairly large community and all they do is help out when I'm not around. The whole Piefed thing sounds great too, you can interact with Lemmy, but use a completely different system. Idk, quitting seems odd.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Thanks.

I guess I'm just sad that if I rejoined on a different instance and blocked .world, it would have 1/10 the content.

Reminder: I'm a lurker so any drama would just be more content for me when I'm just browsing.

I'm treating it as a break up. Cut all contact with her and her family.

Does it make sense? Most likely not.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

FYI, I had a run in with an admin at lemmy.world way in the beginning of my time here on lemmy. This particular one was deleting my comments when he didn't agree or something? Not sure why. (*Note: the comments weren't being removed like a mod would, they weren't in the modlogs.) I deleted the entire account and moved here to sh.itjust.works because it was too much like reddit. I was then banned from world for a year. I think he called me a bad poster? Can't remember, but it was funny. It wasn't a big deal and lemmy was still way better than any other platform. If I were you, I'd try piefed. You still see things world, even if you're banned. I don't even notice them and do my own thing.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, does that person still moderate .world? The world admin I interact with regularly has been very nice.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, I just checked. There's quite a few over there, I'm sure some of them are great. World has a weird reddit energy to it though, I try to post there as a last resort.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

Sounds like doccod.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So 1/10 the content vs… 0/10 by leaving altogether. Do you plan on going back to Reddit, somewhere else, or just quitting cold turkey from all of it?

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Cold turkey. Better for my mental health.

Social media is anything but.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago

No, that's understandable.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Now, let me say this: the whole time he moderated news, I only had a single complaint about his activity. I banned him for 2 days for that.

If a moderator is banned due to their activity, that person shouldn't be a moderator.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago

Moderators are just people doing a volunteer job and make a lot of mistakes. If I see someone being borderline, I always sigh with relief when I don't have to figure it out, because it's not one I mod. They're not on a pedestal, they're trying to herd kind, unruly, funny, obnoxious, cats.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

Everybody makes mistakes.

I gave a ban to show nobody is above the rules. I made the ban length commiserate of the infraction.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, this is the result of a lemmy.world instance decision.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago

Not interested in the drama, but I would like to thank you for your work!

All the best!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

they told everybody that they were not allowing people to remove alternative views.

"They" is solely me. I wanted to prevent things like r/the_donald and r/antivax, so I drafted up a neutral policy to address it. Instead of trying to sell it, I went with an engineer's view and tried to think of the worst possible consequences of that policy.

I tried to run it past admins for awhile. Didn't get much of a response, and then published it. After it was published, they had me retract it, and then it was never revisited.

We didn't always get along, but I respected as appreciated your work as a moderator. Moderating a big sub like !news and not having a third of the community at your throat is an accomplishment in and of itself.

I'd love to have completely different moderators across our biggest communities, but it's quickly becoming evident why that's harder and harder to do. People are always more willing to throw rocks from the sidelines than actually try to help the situation.

Thank you for what you've done here, and good luck with whatever you decide to do. You'll always be welcome here, including if you change your mind.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I appreciate it. Yes, you were the one who said weird shit about me lol.

It has been a pleasure to help. I know I have things to regret, but my regrets are outweighed by my satisfaction of knowing I did the best I could.

I don't see myself changing my mind. I did this to be a janitor. I would pawn off top moderator role as often as I could, because one person leading too many comms can only be a bad thing. Admin gave me more than I could or wanted to handle, and VERY publicly.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I suspect that PieFed communities might be far easier to moderate, using the more automated tools that exist and are being developed - e.g. if someone does not want to see a post with a keyword such as "Musk", they can use the personal filtering tools to block it themselves without having to rely upon a moderator to do everything for them.

But it sounds like you need a break from social media altogether, which I assure you will be beneficial for your health. A little bit there (of social media I mean) is all you need - rather reading books or practicing hobbies, best of all even is touching grass.

And if you return, PieFed really does have tools that makes it easier to do just what you want on the platform and avoid what you don't, e.g. rather than looking at your Subscribed feed you could go to just "Arts & Craft" while avoiding politics, or vice versa visit "News & Politics" to avoid digging into memes. For low-volume communities I even have every new post trigger a Notification to alert me to view it first.

I am trying to say that there's hope, for when and if you return, to dial back your social media addiction. To participate without being sucked in as deeply as you were before. But anyway you do it, take care of yourself first.

Also, I avoided those large contentious communities that you modded but even so I will say thank you for trying to serve others all across the Threadiverse - that speaks a lot to your character that you were willing to hold the line for so long.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 5 points 23 hours ago

lmao 🫡 good luck poster