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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

As a civ player, I know a cultural victory when I see one.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We've been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You keep on coping there little buddy. What's happening is that regular people from both countries are now talking directly to each other, and finding out what life is actually like.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uhhh, not exactly regular people. From what I've seen from the Rednote, at least my feed is wealthy upper-middle or upper class, while the Americans are from low to middle class.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

That’s because via GDP those two are at the same level even though they are different levels in their own country.

[–] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I didn't think child labor still existed in China, just harsh labor conditions and low pay.

China's government's strict control of the media did, however, lead to me not questioning the social credit score thing.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same.

Not hard to believe when there's camps for uyghurs.

Happy to be wrong.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I maintain this, but other comrades like @davel and @yogthos keep better megathreads about this topic.

https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#whats-going-on-with-the-uyghurs

[–] Dop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This megathread is garbage, it lists quora and twitter threads as sources.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Twitter and quora are not sources lol. They're platforms ppl use, and their posts should be measured by their merits, not where it's posted.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Purchasing power is rising dramatically, labor conditions as well.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

996 sounds like amazing labour conditions

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Literally illegal in China

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Literally allowed in practice

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No actually, you're just a racist making assumptions.

[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Not necessarily. You don't know why they're making that claim.

I live in Korea, where the letter of the labor laws are quite strong. However, they're not enforced. Workers don't sue companies because they're either afraid to rock the boat due to cultural norms or afraid they will develop a reputation and become unhirable.

Korea and China are very distinct cultures, but there are key facets that are common between them. Confucian (or at least neo-Confucian in Korea) values prioritize maintaining the peace and deferring to authority. This is one of several factors that causes Koreans to endure intense working hours, and I'm more willing to believe Chinese folks overwork a lot due to the few shared values.