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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

When will the democrats drop gun control from their platform given recent history?

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"

  • Karl Marx
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

When the Dems become a Marxist party.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

~50% of an armed populace will fight for an oppressive regime. It's not an effective way to deter governmental takeover.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This assumes that either the populace that would fight for a freer regime is in the permanent minority or that there exists no part of the populace that would simply not fight for either regime.

I seem to recall that ~40% is the magic number of strong supporters (not necessarily militant supporters) that the regime would need to effectively suppress dissent through violent and non-violent means, but that's a half-remembered number that I cannot source.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I meant ~50% of people who fight, not 50% of all people.

40% seems pretty high for that effect. I suspect it would depend on how desparate people are for change.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And that number is based on what, exactly? Vibes? Revolution only succeeds when there is broad support.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Based on how people voted

Revolution only succeeds when there is broad support.

That's exactly what I'm saying

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

What are you talking about? The Democrats actual platform around gun safety is very bland and common sense reforms with wide bipartisan support.

Your question is actually, "When will the Democrats stop doing the things that they aren't actually doing that Republicans told me they were doing as a boogeyman!!!"

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

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