Also, don't forget the entire story is about fighting racists who want power to wizards, but only pure bloods.
But Rowling is racist as fuck.
Why write these books? When you clearly are on Voldermort his side in real life?
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Also, don't forget the entire story is about fighting racists who want power to wizards, but only pure bloods.
But Rowling is racist as fuck.
Why write these books? When you clearly are on Voldermort his side in real life?
But the books completely fail to present racism as something that needs to be stopped.
I mean, why is Slytherin still a House? They're explicitly evil and bigoted, and everyone is like, oh well, that's just how they are.
Rowling could have made it make sense. She could have said that because Slytherin's trait is ambition, and people often take that too far, dark wizards tend to be Slytherin, but they can come from anywhere. And also, most Slytherins are actually good, even though that's where the bad wizards tend to come from.
But no, every dark wizard is Slytherin, and every Slytherin is bad.
Snape isn't an example of a heroic Slytherin so much as he's an unbalanced stalker who sides with Dumbledore while still being a terrible person. I could overlook that if even one other Slytherin was good, but they're just not.
Draco Malfoy's redemption arc was the opportunity to redeem Slytherin. Instead it ends without him ever actually doing anything right. His evil plan fails because he sucks, then he gets saved by Harry and everyone's just cool with it.
After all the death and destruction, everyone just goes back to school alongside the wizard Nazis. Because the bigotry and all the things that led to Voldemort just aren't a big deal as long as they stop short of full-on war.
I personally suspect that she may have been better back in the 90s and 00s, remember she has been chumming it up with brain rotten rich profligates who are fueled by suffering for decades at this point. While she most likely still had shit opinions they probably got amplified over time combine that with the internet and you have a rather toxic concoction. Also on average notable rich people tend to not be the quiet types who keep to themselves funding weird little projects, they tend to go insane like Howard Hughes.
My great grandfather wasn't worth a fraction of that type of wealth and started going through it, though he combated that type of insanity by traveling around the world. Somehow made friends with someone in the upper elements of the Soviet Communist party during that time.
Yeah, when she was poor she had no problems with others, now she's rich she doesn't want peasants living too close to her castle.
Why do I get the feeling she is one of those English clasists that is also a racists who doesn't like people that have the "Wrong accent" or name?
Yeah that's what I mean. They used to be her neighbors, her equals, as she came from being really poor. But now she sits in a very high white throne and people of colour are beneath her.
Oh no I meant she'd be racist to Scots and Irish, but I'm not familiar with English racism particularly well. But I guess she would also be racist against people of color.
Fun fact: I was once called a mutt by an English woman in the high desert here in California. I don't know if it was my bastardized accent or my looks but regardless I flipped her off.
I believe her castle is in Scotland, so she would have a hard time then haha
Hasn't stopped some folks before.
It's wild to me how progressive HP felt compared to the underlying "conservatism good, actually" message underlying it. How the hell did a whole generation of kids miss that? Poor reading comprehension? Or is it that the US is so regressive that English conservatism feels progressive?
I mean when you look at Harry Potter through a magnifying glass it's actually very pro status quo with a lot of issues breaking down to "the wrong people in charge" a lot of gestures made towards the sort of social problems of the society... Like look at house elves. We meet Dobby and everyone agrees that slave holding situation isn't ideal but once we meet more house elves we learn that Dobby is kind of a weirdo and that they are effectively a sentient slave race with only exceptions like Dobby taking issue with being bound. Hermione sees this as a legitimate issue as any potential elf could be a Dobby but then great detail is placed about how annoying and virtually pointless her advocacy is but the rest of her society and the framing effectively informs the reader - "don't think about house elves. Dobby is fine. It's not your problem and shouldn't be." It's framed as a problem to be solved on a small scale interpersonal basis because by and large the system works.
It's generally difficult for people to critically read a narrative that throws up that many hairpin bends particularly when the set ups are made in the book that these things are social problems... but then never paid off. That it happens a fair amount innthe books is a fairly confusing yarnball. It feels progressive in the same way a company mission statement that is not being enacted in any real way feels progressive.
I mean, I don't think that framing is out of line for the age range of the protagonists.
Yes they are saving the world, but they're not exactly politically connected, aware, or savvy to initiate policy change.
So Hermione does what most middle or high school kids do. She advocates and protests.
I don't feel like digging through JKR's body of work to find perfect quoted examples but if you feel inclined go back over Hermione's advocacy yourself she is framed by author as "smuggly" shaking her collecting tin, cornering people in house common spaces until people acquiesce just to get her to go away. Every time her protest is brought up it is usually paired with some kind of value judgement device where the reader is made aware of the apathy of her friends or the people she's advocating to or the annoyance she is on people in her space.
What Hermione does is a reasonable response for a person her age. What the author creates around that is a atmosphere of hopelessness where Hermione feels personally fufilled by the virtue of the cause but everything in the narrative conspires to make sure you know she's tilting at windmills.
It's framed as a problem to be solved on a small scale interpersonal basis because by and large the system works
I dont get this phrase after the because
"By and large the system works" under most circumstances the system (elvish slavery) functions as intended/ without victims.
“By and large” just means “for the most part”.
Edit: also “with few exceptions”
Oh darn sorry i could have googled that i guess. I genuinely thought that this was a typo. Thanks.
It helps to read it as "...because, by and large, the system works"
A big problem is that early on it's teased Harry would become this "Anti-Voldemort" figure who renews the Wizarding World and completely restructures it, and then he just becomes a cop and maintains the same status quo that got his friends killed.
So foreshadowing that doesn't pay off because JK sucks at writing mostly
Exactly. It always been witchy Star Wars. If you look too hard, you'll just find stuff that wasn't actually there.
It's been a long time since I read the books or watched the movies. In what way does Harry become a cop?
He literally joins the wizard world equivalent of the police force
As far as i remember, it isn't mentioned in the first 7 books. It might be mentioned in the curse we don't like to talk about (the cursed child) and/or in all her ramblings on pottermore or whatever that site was called.
How the hell did a whole generation of kids miss that? Poor reading comprehension?
In my case, probably, but I was like 14 by the time I read the last book so I don’t really blame my younger self because at that age I definitely wasn’t looking for any deeper meaning and just enjoyed the fantasy and escapism.
thinking back about my experience with hp i didnt have the political understanding yet, to notice the injustices that i was not suppose to notice or question and i did not notice that the presented solutions are all kinda non-solutions.
all i saw was that hp fought against injustices like the fantasy nazis and that they liberated this one poor mistreated elf and became friends with the kids who were looked down on, while showing those mean nazi spawn bullies of. in a way hp has the simplistic analysis of good and bad that a child might have. while also being a flawed kid.
There's a great breakdown on YouTube by Shaun on the Harry Potter books, but one of the things that I like that he points out is that you can basically watch JK's political stance change in real time as the books progress.
When she started writing them, she was "impoverished" (to some extent she also benefitted from help like living in a place owned by her sister for free), and the story starts out railing against the system and those in power. As the books took off and she began to benefit more from that same system, the plot began to be more about how the system is great and shouldn't be questioned, but only the right kinds of people should have power. If you're a Good Guy, you can use the Killing Curse and it's okay because you're a Good Guy. If anybody else uses the Killing Curse, then they're a Bad Guy and that's horrible. The wizards keeping magic away from the Muggles, a power that could solve many of the world's problems, is a bad thing at first, but Harry goes on to become a magic cop to enforce that very same ban at the end of the series. There are tons of examples in the story.
Very interesting, thank you!
We probably think the first contact rules in Star Trek makes some sense. Is HP‘s magic disparate?
Interesting that Muggles will never grow to become magical meanwhile a civilization can develop drive on the road. So one day one you would have tons of people trying to marry wizards/witches, and begging the wizarding community not just for help but for advancement and personal gain. I imagine immense resentment. Would be a toughie!
I mean, when I was reading the books as they came out, I expected “oh yeah obviously he’s gonna overturn the corrupt order and we’re gonna pay off on this whole elf slavery plot, which surely is written comedically just because an unflinching representation would be far too dark for a kids series.” That’s how stories like this usually end, after all.
And then, uh, it didn’t do any of that.
So I think it’s something like “it’s fairly generic, the other stories in this genre skew left, and nobody expected it to have a weird aggressively-centrist swerve a decade later.”
Is not conservatism but peak liberalism, where the problems aren't the power structures but that the people on power are not good enough. This is why at the end of the series no structural changes are done, the only thing that changes is the people in power is the Good Ones(R).
It didn't skip past me, even as a kid, in the perfect age bracket to grow up with the book series.
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Oh, fat and ugly people are always also internally, morally, unfixably flawed.
Oh, the super blonde aryan coded people are magic nazis.
Oh, a base level of magic racism is more or less normalized.
Oh, those elves are slaves but its ok because they actually really love being slaves.
Oh, the banking system is run by cariacatures of Jews.
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I noticed all this shit as a child, and was pestered and guffawed at for pointing it out.
This is before I even knew 'Trans' was a thing that could and does exist, before I even knew that you could be gay or lesbian or bi.
I still was, as recently as a few years ago, poopoo'd for mentioning these problems in Harry Potter... by the ... Potterhead/Disney Princess/Goes to Disneyland once a year people I used to know, who self describe as all over the gender rainbow, but aren't capable of acknowledging that these problems exist, because magical escapism apparently requires full doublethink... and those people would also routinely hypocritically mock my own mild cisgender nonconformity.
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Yeah, the Overton Window in the US is/was so thoroughly shifted rightward, in so many ways, that 'we can have a story line that involves magic' was considered widly progressive, compared to the baseline of 'Pokemon cards are demonic because they involve evolution' and 'DnD is demonic because roleplaying is impossible and it makes you a Satanist Witch/Warlock'.
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Animorphs was more progressive and mature.
Here kids, time to learn about the horrors of war, first hand, as told by a teenage terrorist group!
Things are shitty and messy and unpredictable, and the world revolves around how youand others handle morally gray, fundamentally complex scenarios, not cookie cutter, simplistic good vs evil decisions that are far less difficult to evaluate!
ANIMORPHS WAS MY FUCKIN JAM, HOMIE.
Animorphs is effin A. They should make a TV show out of that. There has never been an Animorphs TV show.
The book covers were ludicrous.
But...
Perhaps one should not judge a book series by its covers.
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In the event you didn't know, there does actually exist a rather poorly executed single TV season of an Animorphs TV show... didn't get good ratings, think it got a DVD release at some point, but it does exist now on I think at least one streaming platform.
Also... I believe these are official: More recently, basically much of the book series has been adapted to graphic novel/comic book form, and has been released that way.
Also also... there is a video game? Actually several?
Jessie Gender has a video where she explains gender with Hogwarts houses as a metaphor. She filmed it before JK went crazy and uploaded it much later with an explanation how long ago she filmed it