This gets us to the central problem of today’s surveillance state. No one running the cameras wants to be observed. One reason that city officials object to releasing Flock data, for example, must that they themselves are among the recorded. The cameras are on them too; they too can be tracked. Everything means everything for these everywhere cameras.

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[–] 145 points 11 months ago (1 child)

“This is sensitive data that could do a lot of damage if it fell into the wrong hands”, said the people paying a for-profit company to collect the data

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  • [–] 138 points 11 months ago

    “You mean we have to let the public use the services they’re paying for? Wtf!”

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  • [–] 100 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    That's how it is done.
    If it is a public camera, it has to be a public record.
    And if not, then anyone having access to the feed, has to have their whole life (both work and personal) be available as a public record.

    If not, then you now have cases where most people can't afford to defend themselves from malicious cop allegations.
    To prevent this, anyone arrested, pre-trial has to have access to all searches done by cops, related to the allegation and ability to pull-up 100% of their own footage anytime near the event in question.

    If any part of the footage is deleted, due to "technical issues" like, "the footage was deleted" or "some of the cameras were not working", then the arrest is illegal and the police department is responsible for compensation.

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    [–] 44 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    My friend and I look for these occasionally. They’re often deployed with default passwords and never updated. Many seem to be set up to case businesses and houses and appear to be obscured from view. It’s super great /s

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Any clever "google Dork" ways in finding these "flock" devices through eg Shodan?

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    Something like 90% of houses in this area have some kind of camera on it. I hate being filmed by these shitheads 24/7.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    I'm one of those. Honestly it's great to have. Not sure about situations where a house is closer to the road, but mine doesn't record people on the sidewalk. You have to walk halfway up my driveway or more before it picks up on something to record. Helps me keep an eye on the stray cats that have a heated home on my porch, though.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I was having catalytic converters stolen, and packages stolen, and even bridge toll trackers stolen. Then I added a bunch of lights and cameras. Now it doesn’t happen anymore. What am I supposed to do?

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    [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    TWO groups of conversation from this:

    1. Public cameras
    2. People having their own cameras on their own homes

    Public cameras recording our private lives recorded MUST be fully regulated and accountable. Private cameras slightly more tricky. I take the view that self hosting options are the best option. We need more devices that just work for the lay person. RING (and similar) should be considered a shit-show for privacy rights.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I would never. Ever have a security camera for personal use that uses some kind of cloud-only server. If I need to use a cloud service for a backup that is one thing. But it will primarily be an internal offline recording. Wired setups are superior here.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago*

    That's why I installed an analog camera DVR system in my home. It cheap, reliable, locally hosted, and best of all I'm the only one with access. (Not counting the Chinese government via the mandated backdoor in the DVR firmware) it's great!

    EDIT: formatting

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I worry we give too much attention to one company over several that are problematic. Not that the attention is invalid, more that we need to keep every invasive technology in each other's awareness.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    "Give me the man and I will find the crime."

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    NY city is the most camera surveillance place on earth. Didn't make it much safer.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Is it NYC now? I remember it being London a while back, but considering the money, I wouldn't be surprised if it was NYC now.

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