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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 13 hours ago

You’d think that would have become mu.

[–] D1re_W0lf@piefed.world 62 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (8 children)

That remind me of this.

(Credits in the image)

[–] infinite_goop@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

I just see Nyan Cat

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, why did the proto-I turn into Z and the proto-Z turn into I? And why did proto-φ not turn into Φ? I do love this graphic though!

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

As written language spread through existing spoken languages, changes are made to match the spoken sounds and languages that have different pronunciation requirements repurpose, drop, create, or modify characters to fit their phonetic needs.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But how did the V become a U?

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

Pronunciation evolution differentiated U and V more and people started differentiating that with an extra sign. As in, the Roman V was pronounced kinda like both and not like today's V - the Roman symbol V is not the modern letter V. You may notice that modern media about ancient Rome have been making Vs sound more like Us.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

It looks like V became U, V, & W

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

Pour one out for the homies we lost along the way

⨂ 𐤎 ʍ ϕ ⲯ

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Hm. Wonder why the Romans “flipped” the letters.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Easier to read in your rear view

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

My guess would be it's easier to write quickly like that when you write left to right.

[–] Tabooki@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Notice there was no letter J around the time of Jesus. Hrmmm 😆

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's why some crosses have "INRI" written: Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorum

[–] Tabooki@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The name "Jesus" comes from the Greek Iēsous, which is a transliteration of the Hebrew name Yeshua (or sometimes the longer form, Yehoshua), meaning "Yahweh saves."

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

“Yahweh saves.”

... so Jesus is basically "God Saves" so "Jesus Saves" is just "God Saves Saves"?

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Hence Iesus Nazarenus in Latin.

[–] Jarme@jlai.lu 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Any reason why Romans mirrored some letters ?

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It was likely caused by the transition from right-to-left to left-to-right writing

So basically, while Egyptian hieroglyphs didn't have a specific writing direction, boustrophedon was a very common system, where you'd start writing in one direction, and then switch direction on the next line (so the first letter of the second line is right under the last letter of the first line).

The Phonecian script, however, started to stick to right-to-left for writing. When the greeks first adapted the Phonecian alphabet for the Greek language, they wrote in right-to-left and boustrophedon. When writing boustrophedon, they would flip the letters to match the writing direction. When left to right started to gain popularity, the flipped letters were used, and left-to-right is now what is used in the Greek alphabet and its descendants.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And why did they swap I and Z?

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

Z was temporarily removed from the latin alphabet, and when it was readded, it was added to the end

[–] pacmondo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

Sometimes, you just gotta go for style points.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Anybody else find it weird how the letter forms changed a bunch in BC and then hardly at all in CE?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 13 hours ago

Maybe because at that point the Roman Empire controlled most of that part of the world? Also maybe literacy was increasing, requiring more consistency? Then as the Roman Empire declined centuries later different cultures only iterated in their own language? Just some guesses.

[–] TRBoom@lemmy.zip 34 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 31 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

(Me silently crossing out “A Cow”)

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 17 points 19 hours ago

Its a moo point what variety of bovine it is.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a meme like this for Kanji being derived from chinese characters

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

It's the same thing though. Basically there are traditional characters, used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapour, and others, and Japan simplified the characters in 1945, then China simplified theirs, but in another way.

A better comparison would be the hiragana and katakana being derived from kanji.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 20 hours ago

The Greek was sneaking a look from across the table .... which is why they reoriented the symbol

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Major missed opportunity not making Canaanite and Greek head be turned a different angle

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 9 points 20 hours ago

"What's wrong with your spelling, man? Everyone knows 'aardvark' starts with 'bull's head'."

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

At first, I thought this was going to be about constructing the cardinal numbers ℵ~1~, ℵ~2~, ℵ~3~ ...

[–] Alawami@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago
[–] dellish@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Up next: Mamdani is forcing schools to teach Islamic, Egyptian letters!

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago

This is a good one