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[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Blame tablet culture. Everything is now optimally desgined for user friendliness. Kids can just download an app from the appstore and point at what they want it to do. People don't even know anymore how the filesystem on their computer works. If the dow load pup-up in chrome disappears, they think the download has dissapeared and they need to download it again.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

TBF, Android and iOS do not make it clear where files are going when you save them like desktop OSes do. It's almost as if they are intentionally trying to hide their file structure, especially Apple, which is beyond frustrating.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I thought the younger folk would be faster on computers than me but I had to show a junior new hire IT tech what a zip file was and how to open it. Something that I assumed would be second nature to them, they hadn’t seen. Growing up with analog and moving to digital as society progressed, I assumed the next generation would smoke me in tech but it’s been surprising that because tech has “Just worked” for many of them they haven’t had to learn how it works. A blessing and a curse I suppose.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

Honestly sometimes having learned the analog counterpart is really useful. It's a different field but the first time I mixed live audio was on an old analog mixer. It wasn't really all that difficult to use once explained. Shortly after we replaced it with a digital mixer (behringer x32), and I'm so glad that I had the opportunity to use the old analog one because so many concepts would appear, at least to me, difficult to grasp if you're starting out on the digital one.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 2 points 23 minutes ago

Also I've noticed a total lack of curiosity or willingness to learn how to use these products. It takes a little brain power sometimes.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 48 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

And I can’t even tell if it’s because printers have gotten worse or millennials are just the IT department forever.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 62 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

It’s 100 % because you no longer need to understand how information technology works in order to use it.

So our parents didn’t know because the tech didn’t exist (or came late in their life), and our kids because they never needed to learn.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 28 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I work in an industry where we use computers all day and this is painfully clear. I grew up with a mouse in my hand, shortcuts are hardwired into my brain. Watching someone right click them slowly move the cursor to copy, then right click and slowly move to paste, then slowly navigate to formulas then click refresh is brutal. It literally takes them 3-4x as long as it takes me to do the same task.

On the bright side, I only work about 20 hours a week and still outperform them, so thanks I guess?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 58 minutes ago (2 children)

Gen X here and I memorized only 3 shortcuts: cut, copy, and paste

[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 31 minutes ago (2 children)

I've gotta have my Ctrl+T and Ctrl+N and of course my Ctrl+W. And you KNOW I've got my Ctrl+Shift versions of everything, naturally. Oh man, and my Windows+Tab, how could I forget you?

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Also win+space to switch from English to Japanese and back! And inside that, shift+caps to switch between kana and kanji, and romaji!

(I’m on Mint, but I changed the shortcuts to be Windows default because that’s what I’m used to. Still works great, sometimes I hamfist the wrong kanji in the sentence because I’m just not looking too closely, but I’ve seen native English speakers abuse the shit out of “your” and “there”.)

[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 minutes ago

I definitely have a lot more I use, I just had an I Think You Should Leave sketch in my head and tried to do a shitty riff on it. 🤣

https://youtube.com/shorts/4qi7MsXyP8E

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 minutes ago

I can't count the times Ctrl+Shift+T has saved my browsers sessions. Or when I close a tab and 5 seconds later think, wait I needed that one.

Also je youtube player controls. J, K, L, etc. Got so annoyed by the video player not responding to spacebar because the video wasn't focused that I just stopped using the spacebar.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

Good ol' C-w, M-w, and C-y

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 47 minutes ago

I was hella unemployed for a while, and the job centre asked me if I was good with computers. I replied "not really. I cab do a little HTML, and can sort of read JS and C++/C# but can't really write anything with them" so they sent me on a course so I could brush up on my computer skills to improve my prospects of getting a job.

I spent my first lesson teaching everyone else what the difference between left click and right click was, and how the little arrow moves when you wiggle the mouse.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

It's partially that. It's also because printers do suck more now. Had an HP 5p in the 90s that was a workhorse, reliable as hell, and would simply print whatever you sent. period.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Fair enough, printers suck! Laser printers seem to be less of a racket than inkjets, but still..

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 31 minutes ago

I tried older HP PSC 1315 on Windows 11.
Windows 11: Cannot find drivers, use manufacturer's website.
HP: Windows will automatically download drivers, no downloads are provided.

Uuuh... thanks?

Soooooo... archive.org.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 seconds ago

I have a great rule to promote self reliance. I'll gladly help you, but if the answer is in the first 20 results on Google, it costs you 50 euro.

I only had one relative get angry, asking how he was supposed to know if it was. I told him to check, and he angrily said "well then I might as well do it myself".

Exactly.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 45 minutes ago (2 children)

Not just millennials… I’ve been family IT support since the late 80s. And not just printers. TVs, cable, VCRs, DVD players, BlueRay, stereos, home theater, networking, WiFi, smart appliances, laptops, tablets, phones, etc.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Not just millennials… I’ve been family IT support since the late 80s.

I mean, as a millennial I only missed that by a couple of years. I was already the most computer-literate person in the house when I was 7, in the early '90s.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 1 points 38 minutes ago

I feel like being competent in electronics can be so aggravating depending on how people treat you. I don’t even want to think about those giant tv/dvd/multi-disc changer set-ups with sound systems people had. Rip.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I thought this was about Gen X, rooky Gen X mistake, sorry, forgot we forgotten.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

They don't forget us when they are struggling with their computer...

[–] myster0n@feddit.nl 6 points 1 hour ago
[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Today I had to teach two people from different generations, the difference between right and left click.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 1 hour ago

Did you mention the center wheel click? No? Probably for the best.

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social 4 points 46 minutes ago

Tbf printers are the most unnecessarily complicated pieces of shit ever

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 15 minutes ago

We can afford kids?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I'm lucky that the people in my life do try some basics before asking me and tell me what they tried. Sometimes things just seem to start working when I arrive, so I just play along with it and say the printer was intimidated into working by my mere presence.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Oh, you have that aura too? I like it in that it helps me avoid spending time on fixes, but it's annoying too because deep in my mind I wonder what really went wrong.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Same. What do you mean your device was suddenly incapable of performing one of its most basic functions for an hour and it magically got better just before you handed it to me? I don't have panacea NFC tags embedded in my skin.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

I don't have panacea NFC tags embedded in my skin.

Right. 😉

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 38 minutes ago

I don't have panacea NFC tags embedded in my skin.

you're sure about that?

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 51 minutes ago

The printers are playing the long game.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

The panic my coworkers get in their eyes when they pull me from a task just to show me something that suddenly works for them is always funny.

“This was totally not working for 10 minutes straight.”

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 2 points 43 minutes ago

When we're all retired and dying off, the world will regress to the pre-industrial age it seems.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Had to teach our seniors to use alt+tab, Had to teach our interns to use alt+tab

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

Thank god I started using computers before smartphones were as ubiquitous as they are now. If I had waited til I was a teenager I would have no idea how to use a computer.