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    For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release

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    [–] Shayeta@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    No problem, just makr sure your system has the exact version of libraries the application needs. And oh, you will only update those dependencies when the application update updates the requirements.

    Oh what's that? Another application you want to install uses the same lib but different version? Tough luck, chump!

    Seriously it's either flatpaks or the multi-version dependency management that openSUSE has, and you're not saving much more space here either.

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    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

    Just build from source

    [–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

    flatpak install/update <package name> --no-related

    there problem solved

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago

    Then just unpack said flatpak, there are tools for that.

    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I actually like flatpak. The only issues I have are with GTK apps which I try not to use anymore.

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    I absolutely hate all this container shit, for my uses. That said, they make sense when you need to sandbox applications for whatever reason, but most of those uses seem like they would be better served with VMs.

    [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 13 points 1 week ago

    So maybe use Debian and compile the app yourself instead? The Dev made something free with their time, use your time to make it work for you.

    [–] gerowen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

    Alternatively though, if an app has KDE library dependencies for example, it's kinda nice to not have to install a whole other desktop system wide.

    [–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I liked Snaps and Flatpaks fine when I first started using Linux, and the distro I was on treated them the same as software in the repo, but I eventually started to avoid them because of the space they take up, and because I got tired of constantly having to mess around with permissions to try to get things working. Now, if something isn't available in rpm, I use AppImage or a tarball, or compile it myself.

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
    • rpm: signed payload and manifest with signatures in bill of materials that integrates and coordinates with system db and allows enterprise content review and validation at every step and/or easy back-out.
    • flatpack/app image - none of these.

    Anyone interested in build, security, deployment, should have issue with that. But look at its corp champions and discover their motive.

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    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

    Build it from source them.

    [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

    Flatpak is love, flatpak is life.

    [–] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If it's only available as a flatpak I don't need it. 🀷

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Its your call

    However, Flatpak is growing in popularity so chances are that's going to be more and more the norm. Same thing with Wayland.

    [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Are there people who hate Wayland as well?

    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    There are people who hate anything new.

    Call it flatpak, call it wayland, call it systemd. There's always haters.

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    [–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Yes there are. Actually quite a lot. They hate it because it isn't a perfect solution in every single case that X.Org provided but ignore the long history of vulnerabilities, bugs, and cursed workarounds present in X.Org. it is getting harder for them to hate though as most of the pain points (eg. color management and global shortcuts) are part of the standard now.

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    [–] FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Another missed occasion to have taken a screenshot. There's gnome-screenshot, scrot, your DE's integrated tool and so many others to choose from, you can do it!

    That sort of shit makes me hate the modern internet. (Also screenshots are cleaner and therefore compress better since you seem to care (rightfully) about storage space.)

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    [–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Storage is cheap, I don't care at all as long as I can easily install it without having to go online to search for missing dependencies in the correct version.

    My only problem with Flatpak was when I tried to install an IDE and made it use Podman or Docker and the container thingy caused problems.

    [–] 6mementomorib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    "x is cheap" is not the greatest take imo. it's cheap until you just so happen to not be able to afford it. what now? better give me an income for the price in storage. not talking about flatpak specifically.

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    [–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

    btrfs compression and dedupe. Saves a lot of space

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Skelly is rapidly approaching your location.

    tl;dr: some applications (like Bottles) are designed to run only in sandboxed environments. Flatpak is a robust way to ensure that an application has the correct dependencies and conditions for proper functionality.

    Or alternatively... crzyshrtct was not found on your host, but is required, daddy. Please install it to be able to use the software.

    [–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    and 8gb ssd? at that size it's surely a removable 2242 ngff drive, it's like 10$ for a 64gb one. you're quite literally throttling your systems read/write speed, cause ssds want at least 20% free to manipulate files.

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    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

    I only use flatpack when I need the most up to date version of a software for whatever reason.

    [–] jmf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Ok dude, you should have looked at the minimum requirements for a linux install before buying that thin client. I checked debian and fedora and both had minimun requirements exceeding 8gb for graphical environments. Read the manual, stop bashing a tool you arent using right. Flatpak works great for almost every use case, especially if you learn how to tweak the sandbox.

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