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RCV trends: Four states ban RCV in 2025, bringing the number of states with bans to 15.

(Okay idk why it says 15 up here then later says 16, somebody on that site probably didn't update the title text)

As of April 30, five states had banned RCV in 2025, which brought the total number of states that prohibit RCV to 16.

  • Gov. Mark Gordon (Republican) signed HB 165 on March 18.
  • West Virginia Gov. Patrick Morrisey (Republican) signed SB 490 the March 19.
  • Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly (Democrat) signed SB 6 into law on April 1.
  • North Dakota Gov. Kelly Armstrong (Republican) signed HB 1297 on April 15.
  • Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (Republican) signed HB 1706 which became law on April 17.

Six states banned RCV in 2024.

Why YSK: If you're a US-American, its time to pay attention to State and Local politics instead of solely on the Federal. There is a trend in conservative jurisdictions to stop progress in making elecoral systems more fair. Use this opportunity as a rallying-cry to pass Ranked-Choice Voting in progressive jurisdictions, and hopefully everyone else takes notes. Sometimes, all you need is a few states adopting a law to become the catalyst for it to become the model for the entire country, for better or for worse. Don't allow anti-RCV legislations to dominate, counter the propaganda with pro-RCV arguments. Time to turn the tide.

Edit: fixed formatting

Edit 2: Added in the map so you don't have to click the link:

See the pattern? πŸ€”

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[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 128 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Tl;dr

I was curious so I had to go look and see what states banned it. I was shocked, shocked I tell you to see the states that banned it are:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wyoming

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As a Texan, it's a relief to finally not be included on one of these lists for once.

[–] iceonfire1@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't be too relieved. There's a bill banning RCV that passed the Texas Senate and is being considered by the House: https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1751192

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 46 points 1 week ago

[yeehaws sadly]

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it also shock you that Iowa is on the short list to do the same?

https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1848744

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nope. I live in Minnesota and I'm well aware of what I.O.W.A. stands for.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago

For those non-USians reading this, the pattern is: states which tend to vote Republican and thus have majority Republican governance. So called "red states".

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You’d think it would be democrats worried about another Bernie Sanders coming along.

What is it the republicans are worried about with RCV?

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

The left wing vote is split, so the Republicans can win just by getting the largest number of votes with first-past-the-post.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

I don't know because they shouldn't be.

Republicans like Senator Tom Cotton and Donald Trump have garnered headlines for stating their opposition to ranked choice voting after election results didn’t turn out exactly as they hoped. Their preferred candidates, Sarah Palin in the House and Kelly Tshibaka in the Senate, didn’t win. Both are Republicans. So, they claim (loudly) that RCV is biased against Republicans or "rigged."

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is anybody surprised that you could replace the orange with red and have a pretty accurate election map?

What are you guys scared of? Democracy?

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Kansas it surprises me that Kelly signed it; I’d be more inclined to believe that the Republican supermajorities pushed it past a veto.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

It looks like it passed with a veto proof majority that probably included some democrats. Link

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In MO. Voted on it last year. The ballot was intentionally worded to be misleading.

It said each person can only cast one vote. Making it sound like it was to prevent people from voting twice even though that person as already not allowed.

So dumb.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 26 points 1 week ago

They just pulled that in the Ohio House this week. They have been calling it "One Person, One Vote" and are going to withhold state funds to any municipality that uses ranked choice voting. It passed our house 22-5 iirc

[–] gaja@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Missouri Amendment 7, Require Citizenship to Vote and Prohibit Ranked-Choice Voting Amendmen

[–] iglou@programming.dev 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nothing screams "democracy" like explicitely banning a voting system

[–] nico198x 14 points 1 week ago (9 children)

well, to be fair, shitty electoral systems should be banned, like FPTP, because they aren't representative. what's happening here is sadly the opposite.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (23 children)

At what point is a democracy not a democracy any more?

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 week ago

For the U.S., the decisive blow came with the Citizens United ruling, although it’s not unreasonable to suggest the refusal to punish Nixon during watergate signaled that the rule of law was merely a suggestion. That kicked off a whole cascade of political and legal maneuvering to get both the legislative and societal landscape into such a contortion that it would willingly hand away the entire nation to vulture-capitalists.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A better question would be "when was there ever been a true democracy?"

For me, there hasn't been. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't try. It means that we need to truly internalise that wealth and power will, if left unchecked, succeed in perverting it entirely. We need to be ever augmenting it, with that in mind, with a view to playing whack a mole with the interests of the 1% and keeping it working for the 99%.

I mean that won't work either. The rich and powerful will never allow us to simply vote away their ill beggoten wealth and power. However, at least people could say that they tried.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is democrats and Republicans not wanting people to vote for their candidate of choice because they have to constantly play the game of the lesser of two evils. They wanna keep power

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Not even one state that has banned it is run by Democrats.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Americans complain about the two party system and do absolutely nothing to change that. It's like watching a soap opera but everyone's fell of the horse and lost their memory.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

It's almost like those in power make the laws that are used to elect those in power πŸ€”

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Colorado last year RCV was on the ballot as part of an initiative. It was shot down easily because both parties campaigned against it. Not sure what to do when the weight of all incumbents is thrown against something

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Colorado, one of my wife's friends is what most people (I say this, knowing the Lemmy political scale is vastly different from most Americans) would consider super liberal. She's also very outspoken and politically active, so she has no problems telling everyone she knows how to vote on every issue.

Last election, we were at her house and she mentioned that she was against ranked choice voting. When I asked her why, she pointed to her voting guide provided by the Colorado Democratic Party. She just blindly accepts that because the party says it's bad, then it's bad.

After seeing that, it wasn't surprising to me when the proposition failed.

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Lol go to r/conservative and you'll see all those idiots having doublethink simultaneouly saying that they support term limits for congress and support for ranked-choice voting, yet continues to vote in conservatives that oppose the very policies they claim to support.

Its actually quite ridiculous. Republican legislators consistantly oppose raising the minimum wage or abortion, yet, the republican voters votes in favor of those policies, while simultaneously vote for the legislators that oppose them.

I'm just like... Why??? Why do y'all vote like this? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

I think we should just go the Swiss-route and do direct democracy; representatives don't even represent their constituents anymore.

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We voted for it at the county level here in CA. That was back in 2020. San Diego county voted to use RCV, as did several other counties in CA. The county registrar of voters is refusing to change from FPTP, and is waiting to see how the lawsuits turn out.

Even if your state hasn't banned it, they will fight you tooth and nail not to change it.

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The fact that Americans banned it, means it good for the people.

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[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 23 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Can anyone explain to me why a BAN was even needed? If a State is FPTP that’s the way it is; why do they need to say a different way is not allowed? Especially because of that different way were to actually be viable enough to become law it would just be a one two step - repeal the old, then institute the new.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's an attempt to proactively prevent any progressive progress.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Changing the voting system involves changing the law, doesn't it? Can't you just revert the ban in that very same bill?

Edit: Ah, I just saw in another comment that this affects lower levels of government that wouldn't have the power to make this change.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They don't want sub-divisions of the State (cities/towns) to implement RCV in their local elections. Probably to avoid the idea to spread. It like Democracy/Republicanism. When the French got rid of their monarchy, all the monarchs of nearby countries were afraid the sentinment would spread, same thing here.

Edit: spelling

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[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago

The Ohio HoR just overwhelming voted to remove all state funding from any city that implements ranked choice voting. It threatens the parties in power, so they are both eager to stomp it out

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The link gives some arguments. It's mostly stupid right wing claptrap.

Opponents of ranked-choice voting argue that it benefits voters with more time and information, leads to decreased voter confidence in elections, and disconnects voting from important issues and debates. Opponents of ranked-choice voting also argue that RCV winners do not necessarily represent the will of the voters.

It goes on to giving statements for those reasons from such respectable organizations as The Heritage Foundation, so do what you want with that.

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Ranked choice should be the standard

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ohio is trying to ban it this year.

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[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

First past the post voting is the sole issue that is keeping legitimately contending third parties off of our ballots.

Installing ranked choice voting (or one of its very close cousins) is the the number one reformation change that can be made to give the people their voices back. So of course, the powers that be are terrified of it... no surprises here.

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[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There was a STRONG effort to ban (or at least end) RCV here in Alaska, and it failed, but barely. They even did the super misleading wording, too, in order to make it unclear if the measure banned RCV or supported it.

I was always so confused by the adamant support that was being shown by general people, though. Like, I get why both Dems and Republicans would be against it: they want to be the only two players in the game. But why any general people would want less choice is beyond me. And it's funny, because the staunchest proponents (at least where I am) were conservatives, when (again, where I live) RCV basically drove out the Democrats. There were Progressives, there were "centrists," there were Libertarians, and then there was Republican/MAGA. Dems didn't even get enough support to be on the ballot. So their hated Libs were wiped off the board entirely for being so ill-liked, but they want to get rid of that system? I just don't get it.

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Seems about right. This reinforces my reality. If something good happened to humanity, I might wonder if I somehow might be going mad.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Mainer here. Its great, except that the governor's race is specifically exempted from RCV. May have something to do with GOP former governor LePage, but can't recall before my morning meds...

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Anything but real democracy.

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

absolutely shocked that southern states with the worst education and track history of the most oppressive laws would do this to their constituents

they've been nothing but removedd-out welfare states the whole fucking time

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