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[–] 177 points 9 months ago (34 children)

I've had so many problems with Nvidia GPUs on Linux over the years that I now refuse to buy anything Nvidia. AMD cards work flawlessly and get very long-term support.

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  • [–] 51 points 9 months ago* (17 children)

    I'm with you, I know we've had a lot of recent Linux converts, but I don't get why so many who've used Linux for years still buy Nvidia.

    Like yeah, there's going to be some cool stuff, but it's going to be clunky and temporary.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    When people switch to Linux they don’t do a lot of research beforehand. I, for one, didn’t know that Nvidia doesn’t work well with it until I had been using it for years.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    To be fair, Nvidia supports their newer GPUs well enough, so you may not have any problems for a while. But once they decide to end support for a product line, it's basically a death sentence for that hardware. That's what happened to me recently with the 470 driver. Older GPU worked fine until a kernel update broke the driver. There's nobody fixing it anymore, and they won't open-source even obsolete drivers.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Even now, CUDA is gold standard for data science / ML / AI related research and development. AMD is slowly brining around their ROCm platform, and Vulcan is gaining steam in that area. I’d love to ditch my nvidia cards and go exclusively AMD but nvidia supporting CUDA on consumer cards was a seriously smart move that AMD needs to catch up with.

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    [–] 73 points 9 months ago (29 children)

    Those are the GPUs they were selling — and a whole lot of people were buying — until about five years ago. Not something you'd expect to suddenly be unsupported. I guess Nvidia must be going broke or something, they can't even afford to maintain their driver software any more.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (15 children)

    I don’t get what needs support, exactly. Maybe I’m not yet fully awake, which tends to make me stupid. But the graphics card doesn’t change. The driver translates OS commands to GPU commands, so if the target is not moving, changes can only be forced by changes to the OS, which puts the responsibility on the Kernel devs. What am I missing?

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    The driver needs to interface with the OS kernel which does change, so the driver needs updates. The old Nvidia driver is not open source or free software, so nobody other than Nvidia themselves can practically or legally do it. Nvidia could of course change that if they don't want to do even the bare minimum of maintenance.

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    [+] 71 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 54 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Here is old man me trying to fogure out what PASCAL code there is in the linux codebase, and how NVIDIA gets to drop it.

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    [–] 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nvidia was awful before the LLM craze, now they're awful AND evil.

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    [–] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (24 children)

    According to the Steam HW survey around 6% of users are still using Pascal (10xx) GPUs. That's about 8.4 million GPUs losing proprietary driver support. What a waste.

    GPU    %
    1060    1.86
    1050ti  1.43
    1070    0.78
    1050    0.67
    1080    0.5
    1080ti  0.38
    1070ti  0.24
    

    Fixed: 1050 was noted as 1050ti

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    [–] 31 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    I wasted days of my life getting nVidia to work on Linux. Too much stress. Screw that. Better ways to spend time. If I can't game, that's OK too.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    I’m told AMD works better with Linux, but I haven’t tried it myself.

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Fuck, what do I do when they inevitably discontinue support for 20xx? Just cry and accept that I no longer have a computer, as every component costs as much as a house? D:

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    [–] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like it's time to switch out the 1080ti for a 9070xt. Been almost 10 years, probably due for an upgrade.

    I will miss having that CUDA compatibility on hand for matlab tinkering. I wonder if any translation layers are working yet?

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    "Brodie" mentioned. To be fair on the Arch side, they are clear the system could break with an update and you should always read the Arch news in case of manual intervention. You can't fault Archlinux for users not following the instructions. This is pretty much what Arch stands for.

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    [–] 21 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    My son was going to switch to Linux this week. He has a GTX 1060.

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    [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    I can't believe they would do this to poor Borland. I guess I'll just need to use an AMD GPU for my Turbo Pascal fun.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    The last time I updated my driver, BG3 didn't start anymore. So I really could not care less about driver updates for my 8 years old card.

    But still, fuck nvidia.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    fuck. I just realised I have a pascal NVIDIA card on my laptop.

    I'm running debian 13, wtf do I do?

    EDIT : seems ok?

    It was expected that the Linux Driver support will end with the GPU driver branch 580 as well, but NVIDIA extended this to branch 590 (it jumped straight from branch 580 to 590 and a single v580 Linux GPU driver exists). So, if you are boasting any of these GPUs, you won't be getting Game Ready drivers that offer day-one game support and optimizations for the upcoming titles. However, there should be no issue in using them for how long you wish. Still, users should keep an eye on the quarterly updates as these are essential.

    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-ends-support-for-gtx-900-and-gtx-10-series-in-linux-with-driver-branch-590/

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Getting dumped to CLI is just a standard Arch experience in updating anything isn't it? You asked for it, you got it.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    I really dodged a bullet upgrading from my 1070Ti to the last AMD (9070XT or I misremembered?) for the black Friday. Lowest price of the generation just before RAM's price skyrocketed.

    My SO is not so lucky…

    Maybe we should use this card for under TV computers with Windows… sadly?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Pascal… Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time… A long time

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