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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 133 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

The names don't have obvious meaning in English but they did in their original languages. Simon is a Hebrew name from the torah and means "he who hears". Peter comes from Petros, the Greek translation of Cephas, the original Aramaic name Jesus gave him and means "rock". So Jesus gave a Jewish guy with a Hebrew name an Aramaic (nick)name because Jesus saw him as the rock (foundation) of his church.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Now everything make sense. In spanish, "Peter" is "Pedro", that sounds like "Piedra", that means "Rock"

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 weeks ago

omg, in french Peter is translated to Pierre which also means "rock"! i always assumed that was a coincidence

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

See also 'petrify' (make into rock) and 'petroleum' (rock fat)

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The female for "Pedro" is "Petra", what make it more obvious, and also "Petronila" is a woman name, that comes from "Petroleum"

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I’d be fucking mad if my parents named me after petroleum

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[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, his name was Simeon bar Jonah, Simon, son of Jonah, or by modern style, Simon Johnson. Then Jesus pops up and starts calling him the Rock... Simon the Rock Johnson. (also fun gravy, Dwayne means fishhook)

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Matthew 16:18

BTW I know this one because of Angels & Demons.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

You can see them too?

i was once taught by a guy named Pete Rock and he was the first to tell you that his name means Rock Rock lol

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Similarly Platos name means broad, which was because he was a wrestler and kept up his physique. It also spawned a joke I'm fond of.

Diogenes wanders into Platos academy and says "Broadly speaking-" To which Plato responds "Yes I was now shut up"

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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 8 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t know why you got downvoted, because that is some very good information. Thanks.

[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am amazed that the name "Pierre" (also french for stone) litterally comes from the greek for "rock"

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Rome and it's consequences

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[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 95 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Very common cult tactic to this day

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Also a friend tactic. It's just a nickname

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 2 weeks ago

We have a Posh Mike at work.

I don't even think he's called Mike.

[–] RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I have friends of which I could not tell you their legal name at Gunpoint

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Learn from the best.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 75 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)
[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty much this. Cults isolate you as their first step. Anything that can be used to make you feel beholden to them, or "fresh/new". They make you think your parents are the enemy, and convince you that your real "family" is inside the cult.

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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Paul's is the funniest because he only got one letter changed from "Saul," even though he had used to be the biggest menace. He was a Christian hunter. Not like a professional one, more like McCarthyism but against Christians.

Saul was a perfect example of sin, and Jesus said, "Let's switch that 'S with a P, and he's all good. '"

(Please don't hurt me, I'm joking)

Edit: Wait, my bad. Jesus changed his Roman name, "Paul" to "Saul," (which was Paul's, Jewish name), and after Jesus died, when Paul moved to Rome, he went by "Paul" again. That's also right before he was imprisoned and executed and where he'd write parts of the N.T.

I had to double-check everything, lol. That felt like the mendala effect. It turned out he also spent some time in the Bahamas dreaming about some guy named Yosef.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Saul (Sha'ul) is a Jewish/Hebrew name. Paulos is a Greek name. Even until now, bilingual people who are of a minority culture (compared to where they're living) often have two names, one in their their native (family) language and one in the local majority language, one official, the other unofficial.

This was not limited to Paul, even in that immediate timeline. Levi (Jewish name) was also called Levi (Greek name). There's no reason to believe Paul "changed" his name sheet his conversion. He continued to go by Saul after he became a Christian. He went by his Jewish name among Jewish people, then his Greek name when he travelled across Rome and interacted with Greek-speakers.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Also every Hollywood agent with Jewish clients from 1900 until present day.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you tend to do that when you and your buddies are up to street crime

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent meal of loaves and fishes?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

taking multiple roman soldiers' equipment a mile down the road, destruction of money lender property, theft of grain

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention destroying the local bread, fish, and wine economy.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm imagining a Reservoir Dogs scene playing out about the names.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Someone on another mission trip is Acolyte Paul! I assign the names, otherwise we'd have a bunch of Jews dead from an argument over who gets to be Acolyte John. So, you are Acolyte Pink!

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yubaba vibes

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