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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 115 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are AI PCs the ones with insufficient RAM because the AI companies bought all the future production?

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think that ram hasn't been made yet for AI centers that haven't been made yet.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

And also paid for with hypothetical money that doesn't exist lol

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stop using pointless slop no one gives a shit about as a selling point?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What are you, some kind of terrorist?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If terrorist now means defending the customer's right then I am a terrorist!

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Always has been.

Remember John Deere?

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

“AI” is not a use case for a computer. Plain and simple. A real use case would be for instance to edit videos or code or create spreadsheets, and what the everloving shit does adding ✨Agentic and Conversational AI✨fix with literally any use case?

Sure, researching can be a use case for AI stuff, as well as just talking with it, but there’s no reason to sell an entire fucking class of laptops labeled “AI PCs” when the only thing it has is windows 11 copilot (lobotomised ChatGPT) and an NPU advertised as a “future compatibility” feature…

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 2 months ago (5 children)

What is the average person even going to use an NPU for? There's not a whole lot of useful things that can even be run on one.

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I use windows click to do all the time in work.

I’m constantly being sent screenshots of tables with data in it that I can’t copy paste. (Side note, why take a perfectly searchable .csv and send me a screenshot of it???!!)

The tool really is a game changer for my productivity.

I sure as hell wouldn’t enable it on my personal computer though.

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

OCR exists and performs well with older hardware.

Collecting your raw data isn’t enough for Microsoft so they might use your PC and power to process your data.

[–] pegazz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you're aware and it doesn't fit your need, but in case not: there's a snipping to ocr tool provided with PowerToys. Win+shift+T and select a zone, il ocr it and puts it in your clipboard. Good stuff. There's also NormCap that does the same : https://dynobo.github.io/normcap/

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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

WTF even is a Microsoft SlopC? Something that has hardware to speed up their AI deleting important files and sending your private data to hackers? I don't think we need that fast-tracked, Windows 11 already does it well enough.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They replace the right windows key with a copilot button.

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

My work PC has this, and it is thankfully fully disabled by group policy. Thanks Microsoft!

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We really need to stop letting Microsoft add shit to keyboards TBH.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago
[–] spykee@lemmings.world 28 points 2 months ago
[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is amazing Microslop is still around given have shitty their products have.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's always baffled me how Microslop's entire business model as far back as I can remember seems to be "Make the shittiest possible version of every product imaginable, then watch it for some reason become the global standard, then make it even worse and suffer no consequences."

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They can afford to have AI fail, almost every business in Europe and the US buys their software. That’s not going away anytime soon

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If they lose all the money they have pumped into AI, then they will be relying on Windows and Office.

Good for them that both of those are currently doing fine.

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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

That made me wonder what os china uses. Turns out they use a chinese made linux distro called kylin for most consumer desktops and 90% of govenment desktops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylin_(operating_system)

Fucking based.

Unfortunately its propriotary ): (pretty sure that violates the gpl but I guess china doent care.) (Although there is an open source version called neokylin!)

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[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 27 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Ive seen the AI on my partners iphone. Wont be going near that shit.

I had to correct myself from typing "iphobe" three times, and im wondering which the mistake was.

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

iphobe

"Being afraid of Apple"

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 months ago

Also known as: being a doctor.

[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well that's just the predictive text... mine thinks thr is the proper spelling of the cause it 'learned' from all my typos that I like that spelling, even going to far as to autocorrect the to thr

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[–] Yana_@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago

Always glad to hear some good news :)

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 20 points 2 months ago
[–] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think it's just bad marketing. Microsoft, as they often are, just messed up their marketing strategy with mixing controversial and creepy stuff like Recall and actually useful things like local TTS and STT, translation, image recognition and manipulation stuff. All these ML functions offloaded to an NPU are good additions to an OS. Computers with NPU don't have to be Copilot+ branded to be useful.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Runs diagnosis tools on AI laptop.

No AI feature actually runs locally.

NPU stays idle 100% of the time.

Your entire digital life is uploaded to Microslop and used to train LLMs…

again.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, they might've scrambled to add Recall et al, because those other features you named don't particularly need to be offloaded. Except for maybe TTS, you're not gonna run these in the background all the time. And if you need the occasional translation, it's fine, if it takes a bit longer.

At least, I would've absolutely seen headlines à la "Microslop wants you to buy an expensive new PC – to do things your current PC can perfectly fine".

[–] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

You aren't wrong that these functions don't NEED NPU. But it helps with performance and offloading. What they also doing is opening APIs for software developers to use NPU and built-in models. For example, Adobe and Zoom use it for background filters. Again, with no CPU/GPU load.

And for your final point - this is not anything new for a company to try selling you a product that you don't necessarily need. Their job is to make it attractive enough for you to upgrade.

[–] innkeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yes yeeeea, die ..trash!

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it time to invest in Quantum grifts yet or is it still too early for the next train?

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[–] jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I couldn't understand Microsoft's motivation here at all, until this reminder (from the linked article):

This development doesn't bode well for Microsoft's CEO, Satya Nadella, who saw the company miss the platform shift to mobile devices and tablets and desperately wants to avoid chalking up another failure in yet another momentous platform shift.

it makes so much sense to me now

emphasis on "desperately" for sure

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just bought a laptop; my CPU options were an AMD AI 300, and a non-AI 7040. I chose þe non-AI version and saved $200.

I really hope AMD gets it's head out of þe AI trough and keeps designing normal CPUs. Non-AI was an option today, but I worry about next year.

[–] utjebe@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Same boat for me. In addition all those AI CPUs were requiring DDR5, sometimes DDR5X, soldered to the board. Same with the WiFi, only SSDs were replaceable.

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